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    Asian ministers discuss South China Sea, security

    BALI, Indonesia (AP) — Territorial disputes and flare-ups in the South China Sea were expected to take center stage at Asia's largest security forum this week, after Vietnam and the Philippines accused China of interfering in efforts to explore for oil and gas.

    President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono noted ahead of closed-door talks that it's been nine years since the 10-member Association of Southeast Asian Nations and China agreed to negotiate a code of conduct in the potentially resource-rich waterway.

    "Things do not necessarily have to be this slow," he said, adding "some progress" was long-overdue.

    He said ASEAN needed to signal strongly to the world that the situation in the sea, a strategical shipping lane, is "predictable" and "manageable."

    Southeast Asian ministers — on Indonesia's resort island of Bali for their annual get-together — will be joined later in the week by officials from Asia-Pacific, Europe and the United States for the much more important ASEAN Regional Forum.

    U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, now in India, will be among those attending. So will China's foreign minister, Yang Jiechi, and Pak Ui-Chun of North Korea.

    Hot topics on the table include Pyongyang's nuclear crisis, the slow pace of democratic reforms in military-dominated Myanmar and its bid to take over the ASEAN chairmanship in 2014 — something that is looking increasingly likely. They also are interested in international efforts to help end a border dispute between Cambodia and Thailand, with the U.N. international court in The Hague on Monday ordering both sides to withdraw troops around a 1,000-year-old temple along the frontier.

    Overshadowing talks, however, will be conflicting claims in the South China Sea.

    The sparring is primarily over the Spratlys, nearby Paracels and Scarborough Shoal, a slew of tiny, mostly uninhabited islands, some no more than a half-submerged coral reef and surrounding waters.

    China claims the entire area, a large swath extending far from its southern coast and overlapping with the 230-mile (370-kilometer) exclusive economic zones of the Philippines and Vietnam and, to a lesser degree, of Malaysia, Brunei and Taiwan.

    The smaller Southeast Asian nations often look for backing from the U.S., which is eager to protect strategic shipping lanes in the waters and deepen its own military ties in the region. That only serves to further irk China.

    Clinton was expected to touch on the issue, but only indirectly, sources in Washington told reporters.

    Beijing has already called recent U.S. military exercises in the region inappropriate, though they were planned well before the latest dispute.

    Vietnam says on two occasions since May, China cut cables used by its ships to conduct seismic tests on the sea floor. And last week, just as it appeared that temperatures were starting to cool, a Vietnamese border official alleged that Chinese soldiers chased and attacked a fishing boat and beat up the captain.

    The Philippines has similar complaints, saying in March two Chinese naval ships threatened one of their ships exploring for gas in an area known as Red Bank.

    Beijing, while denying cutting cables, acknowledges incidents took place in what it said was its waters.

    Southeast Asian officials, who ended the first round of talks Tuesday night without any concrete decisions, are expected to hold their first direct talks with China on Wednesday.

    ASEAN, founded in 1967, groups Brunei, Cambodia, Indonesia, Laos, Malaysia, Myanmar, the Philippines, Singapore, Thailand and Vietnam. It admitted Myanmar in 1997, despite strong opposition from Western nations.

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    141 comments

    • Peter  •  10 months ago
      the Only reason they are capable of doing this is because they sell cheat products.
      • John 10 months ago
        You can always buy the more expensive and custom made products if you want to.
    • Only Santorum  •  10 months ago
      A united front from 10 ASEAN countries is always welcome. Why ASEAN got involved? Simple. The sea in South East Asia separates these 10 small ASEAN countries right smack in the middle and has been an important Trade Channel among ASEAN members. NO WAY can China claim an entire sea.
      • Rain 10 months ago
        China ony claim those island, not the sea, and it south china sea, get your name right, only the recognized name are the real name.
      • Mahal 10 months ago
        Selective amnesia MJ? China for months has trumpeted the entire sea belongs to them.
      • John 10 months ago
        Just 86 % of the entire area.
    • AbsolutBaby7  •  10 months ago
      i think the government of PRC(china) wants to show that they are now super power which is like day dream. if they really wants to be on top. then their policy should be transparent. if you give respect then you will gain respect.
      • MimiL 10 months ago
        How muc more transparent you want? how much more respect you want? Be small , tiny, and broke do not give you more rights.
      • YellowFish 10 months ago
        Communist will not last. Soon china will divide into many smaller countries.
    • frj  •  10 months ago
      Every ASEAN country is buying weapons, and so are Japan and Australia. They don't that because they love China.
      • MimiL 10 months ago
        because of the evil empire, ask anybody in Libya, Iraq, or Afghanistan.
    • Joey Williams  •  10 months ago
      Chinese is not an aggressive people, it is the China communist who want to control it population by war and put it people to death. Down with communist.
      • Silence 10 months ago
        @Joey, stop pretending to be a westerner, as your grammar sucks as hell (mine sucks too but at least I'm proud to be Chinese). Besides, the American government who has been putting its people to death since the past 60 years -- Korean War, Vietnam War, two Gulf Wars, Afghan War, you name it.
    • avoice  •  10 months ago
      The cruel greedy but coward China is playing game ‘thief and victim’. Today China sends ships out to harass, rob, and sometime go into killing free others then tomorrow China loudly complaint that it was a ‘victim’ by those ‘aggressive’ neighbors again. Hey China, stop playing the dirty animal game. Don’t be a greedy pig one day then a coward chicken in another day…
    • Linh Nguyen  •  10 months ago
      china is terrors in South East Asia
    • MOSHE  •  10 months ago
      these bloody chinese have problems with all of its neighbour..!!!.... China just wants to capture land belonging to Japan, India, Phillipines, Vietnam, Indonesia, Malaysia, Taiwan. Chinese imperialist are already occupying TIBET. China is the most HATED country for all its neihbours except for Pakistan. Pakistan is a very poor and backward country and is being aided and funded by China and hence Pakistan cannot go against it.
      The US should strengthen Japan, India and Vietnam militarily...as these are the nations that are capable of teaching China a lesson. It is time now that US and its allies should stop buying chinese products, as it is they are of inferior quality, and automatically china will collapse.
    • d t  •  10 months ago
      All smaller countries in Asia should work together to fight China (China is the imperialist/colonist of the 21st century)...
    • mao  •  10 months ago
      the international communities especially the asian countries should bond together to contain or stop the chinese aggressive and arrogant behavior in all the disputed islands. china had already bullied, harassed, and intimidate japan, vietnam, and the philippines. china's behavior changed when they became the second largest economy in the world by trying to control everything as what they did to japan whom they deprived of rare-earth materials. china will be the caused if war breaks out in asia and starts world war three.
    • WONG  •  10 months ago
      CHINA HAS NO LEGITIMATE CLAIMS TO SOUTH CHINA SEA SO THEY SHOULD NOT EVEN BE INVITED TO BE THERE!!! KICK THEIR BUTT IF THEY SHOW UP!!! DOWN WITH THE COMMUNIST OF CHINA!!!!
    • LA Pinoy  •  10 months ago
      Greedy China Demands bilateral talks to Bully & Outmaneuver smaller nations using its sheer economic power, military strength, and size for bargaining.
    • Jonathan  •  10 months ago
      Who's this 'Mimil' character? go to sleep....you would think after posting 30 comments he would be tired
      Get a life!
    • BURADOR---Phil. Voice  •  10 months ago
      ASEAN have to STAND together in DEALING with China------They should be DIRECT and DESCISIVE in Negotiation---As China become richer it BEHAVIOR change DRAMATICALLY from HUMBLE and HONEST negotiator TO ARROGANT and BULLYING nation---
      Negotiation on the TABLE SHOULD on the CHECK on the SEA
    • SJ Samir  •  10 months ago
      To ASEAN Friends, INDIA is sending warship destroyers in the ASEAN Sea soon in the hopes of keeping the shipping trade routes open for all. China has no right to claim an entire sea just because its named after it.
    • 真相的人  •  10 months ago
      Chinese (i.e. the Han) will do what they always have done for 5,000 years.

      With regard to weaker ethnic groups: Attack, murder, ethnically cleanse the lands of and then claim that this is just because is the "mandate of heaven" and that the Han are the Master race.

      With regards to strong ethnic groups: Whine like littler girls and claim the Han being victimized by bullies and only want to create peace and harmony.

      What did the Han Chinese do after America defeated Japan for them. The Han Chinese used Western technology and invaded Tibet and Xinjiang took their land and started a program of ethnic cleansing. About 50 years ago these land were less then 2% Han, and now with government encouraged migration these land will soon be 50% Han and the Tibet and Xinjiang people and their cultures, religions, race will be basically gone.
    • James Boon  •  10 months ago
      TO: SOUTH EAST ASIAN MINISTERS ATTEND IN THIS MEETING: You need to put this in your agenda too...petition to the U.N. charters change this sea to it correct name "Southeast Asian Sea"
    • Mao tse tung sucks  •  10 months ago
      @Istingyou !!! you forgot ! China is also steal most of the copyright materials , reproduce and sell to 3rd world countries !! If you think China is so good !! why do the Chinese always wanted to get out of thei
      of their own country and sneaked out to the West illegally ! is that what you call "superpower"
      it's stink !!!!!
    • LA Pinoy  •  10 months ago
      Only within the ASEAN Regional Forum can you get China to Behave and act Responsibly lest it resorts to uneven-handedness, thus, be exposed for all nations to see.
    • AndyC  •  10 months ago
      The pond-scum Chinese are trying to divide and conquer. All of the smaller claimants (Philippines, Taiwan, Vietnam, Brunei, and Malaysia) should ally with each other and tell the Asian Chinese Scum to go to hell. Chinese garbage, the Hans, want to control everything and are trying to bully their way around the smaller countries. They're about to get their #$%$ handed to them.

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