'No requirement that President should be dumb'

I highly doubt if Mr Tan could be of any great effectiveness.

Tan Kin Lian , keep up the good work. I like the way you put it across to them . point blank ...'No requirement that President should be dumb' .

These shameless people can't stand people giving them the truth facts.

EP = Expensive Puppet ?.
Law Minister said the Elected President can ONLY act and speak as advised by the Cabinet. The EP MUST keep confidential his discussions with the PM -- I.e. Regardless of his disagreements with the Cabinet, he cannot disclose to the public. So, why do we need to elect such an expensive puppet?
Law Minister also said EP can influence the PM if he is respected by the PM. This means that the PM can choose to ignore him because 'respect' is subjective, and PM can conveniently feel that he does not respect the EP, rendering the EP useless. So, why waste $4,267,500 on such a puppet?
If you look at what the Law Minister is doing, he is already pre-deciding the Cabinet's endorsement. This is NOT an election of an Elected President, this is just-for-show, this looks unfortunately more like the Govt's selection of an Expensive Puppet.

so the EP is paid $4million per year to keep his mouth shut up. Nice one.

Last time i used to read only Straits Times and trust what it published. Recently, thanks to the Internet, I started reading Temasekreview and other people's comments in yahoo news. It's obvious Straits Times is bias towards PAP and advocating it's policies. It's also one of the lowest rating newspaper in Asia as it is tightly controlled by the ruling party. Can't be trusted. Tony Tan, if Straits Times support you and gives you publicity, it can only mean one thing, you are the identified puppet for the PAP to take over Nathan. You can never live up to the reputation and same level of respect given by the Citizen of Singapore as Mr Ong Teng Cheong.

Shanmugan has basically described what Nathan has been doing all along for the past 3 terms - acting and playing the puppet for PAP. Then, what has he done to deserve his pay ? We need to question LHL what kind of government is this that the President has no right to speak publicly and express his own opinion. The President of Singapore has the same right as every citizen and has every right to fight for the citizens. This would not be needed if PAP has done their job right and protect the citizens. As a result of their inadequacy and incompetency, we need the President to be wise and to speak out at every opportunity. This is the very constitution that the very people of Singapore wants, not what the PAP wants. So, the people of Singapore can overule the PAP as we are the master and they are the servants.

Mr Shanmugan want a puppet as President (SR Nathan)
My Friends, Please read and pass the message never vote for former PAP member as President, they knew Mr Tan Jee Say capable of contesting this EP and PAP created this four coner fight, (split the votes) and get the Tony Tan as President,
MyFriends, read the following text:

You have already got PAP in power, if you elect another PAP member (former) as President. Where is the CHECK and BALANCES? DO YOU WANT ANOTHER SR NATHAN (PUPPET) BACK IN POWER AS PRESIDENT?

I WOULD SAY Mr Ong Teng Cheong did a wonderful job, on many cases, he when ahead on with government on many issues,

It is only Singapore you can see this kind of funny dealings, PUBLIC FUNDS USED FOR INVESTMENTS PURPOSES, (GIC) IS BEEN PRIVATISED, THIS MUST BE GREATEST OF PAP MANAGEMENT, BY BEEN PRIVATISED, GIC IS NOT ANSWERABLE TO PARLIAMENT (AND THEY ARE MANAGING THE PUBLIC FUNDS),

THERE ARE ALREADY TO MANY TANS ARE CONTESTING THIS ELECTION, THIS WILL CAUSE A SPLIT VOTES, END UP ANY PAP TAN WILL BE ELECTED .... WE SHOULD NOT ALLOW THIS HAPPEN ON THE ELECTION DAY, ONLY ONE TAN WILL BE ELECTED THAT WILL BE "MR TAN JEE SAY" .

ELECTED PRESIDENT, PLAYS VITAL ROLE IN MANAGING THE BALANCES, PLEASE DO NOT SURRENDER THAT TO A PAP MAN, THAT'S WHY I SAY IN MY EARLIER COMMENT WE WILL "REPENT" UNDER PAPA RULE.....

VOTE FOR MR TAN JEE SAY ....... TRUE LEADER..... IF NOT YOU WILL "REPENT" UNDER PAP RULE

thanks

Totally agree with Tan Kin Lian. Now even the Law Minister has lost his credibility, saying all those things about Prime Minister now listening to advice if Tan Kin Lian / Tan Jee Say is President. Now I believe Tan Kin Lian and Tan Jee Say.

Stop wasting tax payers money to hold the election which is only meant for show.. we don't need an EP who is nothing but a puppet of the PAP!

if Pap needs dump people the by their efinsiatiob,mr TONy Tan is the only UN-dump man,then how

very simple my bro and sis
on the 27th aug EP election, all 2.7 million just go to the poll and mark all X on the poll card..

So in the end all 2.7 million vote are invalid

Conclusion there will be no EP..so we no need to waste $$$$$$ for DUMP EP

No dummy president. Whoever become president to me never mind. It is only a professional, a job for a person which I feel personally. Now what I am concern is today I almost killed by the speeding bicycles by don't know China man or M'sia man or my S'poreans again and again along Pioneer Road North towards Nanyang Central - Dinner time, to make it clear at the pedestrian pathway near the Nanyang Central, so many bicycles and people to and fro in a small walkway. People cycling bicycles along the main road which is for the cars from Pioneer Road North toward Jurong Industrial Areas in the morning and some even occupy the road lanes eventhough it is badly conjested with cars and buses. So many horn going on in the morning due to unconsiderate bicycles drivers. Banned allowing bicycles here, please. Or else fine the bicycles drivers on the road, my dear traffic police. Complaints to the newspapers, they want to come here to interview me but I'm not free, so many times feedbacks also no use, and I have no choice and have to complain here with many ears and eyes here so that someone will help.

Only vote TAN JEE SAY,

Don't be swayed by any political propanda at this point, all these others are fools send by the GOV, all propagandas. One guy say A the other say B just to show some conflict betwn them and saturate the voter's votes for opposition but the pro-paps will cast theirs for only Tony Tan.

Anyway TJS can't do sh-it now also, given the tyrant style Singapore is running. Only remember 4 years later we have to unite and stand as ONE no matter what. KEEP THAT IN MIND>>LET NOT TIME WASH OUR MEMORY ON THIS ONE.

The Law Minister's comments do not contain a shred of statesmanship. In such a role as he so narrowly painted, the EP is singularly useless. I am afraid that the current President Nathan fits the bill perfectly! I hope that the current aspirants will do more and voters should look for the candidates that are likely to do more. The candidate that is likely to emulate President Nathan is TT. So pls vote for the others who will try to value add to our political leadership. Singapore needs another good person. Not a perfect puppet!!

Has Mr. Nathan been doing his job fairly and conscientiously? Did he advised our Prime Minister that he must act on all the promises made to the people and also regulations issued by the Govnt. must apply to all political parties?

PENSION ETC FOR RETIRED PRESIDENT ETC. $$$?
SALARY ETC. FOR THE NEW PRESIDENT ETC $$$?
TOTAL BETTER FUTURE?

Very Clever OR Very Naive of TAN KIN LIAN (Presidential Hopeful) to comment negatively that the PRESIDENT must play " DUMB " . . .

I know , a good many or quite a good number of you , want our future Singapore President to be similar to the U.S. President . . . BUT sadly , our Singapore Constitution DOES NOT PERMIT such a sensational request . . .

Again it shows up the anti Establishment nature OR anti Ruling Party behaviour , of our Presidential Hopefuls - believing that when they become the next Singapore President , it is the proper way to behave or act = BE AS CONFRONTATIONAL AS POSSIBLE (i.e. : question policy in public and etc.)

Why didn't TAN KIIN LIAN stand up in the recent General Elections .? .? .?

Because he wanted to see if the rising OPPOSITION votes would be supportive of his ORIGINAL objective - to be a anti establishment President . . .

NOW , Tan Kin Lian feels that this is the right and opportunistic moment to bask in GLORY of the Office of the President AND be PRO OPPOSITION - that is KILL THE TWO BIRDS WITH ONE STONE . . . Don't Need To Fight The General Elections . . . Yet Be President .! .! .!

NOW THAT'S CALLED POLITICAL SAVVY . . .

Why are you anti Establishment OR anti P.A.P. - referring to President Nathan as " Ah Ney " OR " The Executive Puppet " and etc . . .

Don't you have any sense of respect OR decorum for a man whom has been your PRESIDENT . . .

Just because you feel that President Nathan HAS NOT DONE ENOUGH - doesn't give you the birth rights to call him insulting and derogatory names . . .

UNLESS of course , you refer to your own parents and siblings and may be even your wives and children by such DEROGATORY names . . . SHAME ON YOU , WHOM FEEL THE ANONYMITY of the Internet gives you the clout to behave as whom you are . . .

Again and again and again - the Presidential Hopeful(s) are still " LOST or NOT FULLY AWARE or IN THEIR UNDERWEAR " about the Presidential's rights and abilities , according to the SINGAPORE CONSTITUTION . . .

It makes me truly wonder and seriously question - what are these Presidential Hopeful(s) TRUE INTENTIONS of being a President . . .

If you want to politicise and engage the ruling party in its policies - please stand up in the next GENERAL ELECTIONS @ 2015 or 2016 . . .

Don't belittle and turn topsy turvy , the office of the PRESIDENT : to show what is the OPPOSITION'S AGENDA or its OBJECTIVES - means in Singapore . . . (39% versus 61% and etc.)

This will POLITICISE and permit new wannabe POLITICIAN'S aspiring to thwart the Government's policies , try to be a PRESIDENT , since they can't be a politician (M.P.) at GRASSROOTS LEVEL (at the General Election)

a TRULY sad day for the Office of the President , in Singapore - IF THIS HAPPENS . . .

MAJULAH SINGAPURA

So is Shanmugam saying that the Elected President cannot say anything contrary without the approval of the government? If so, how can he is supposed to protect the people's hard earned reserves should the PM and his team decides to dip into our reserves for no legitimate reasons. Is Shanmugam saying that if the Elected President is not respected by the PM and his team, then they would not have to listen to him? Then why spent the people's money on this charade? If the EP is but a puppet without any powers to contravene the wrongs of the government or be the voice for the people.

Ya, you dont have to play "dumb" but all you need is to play "dumb (mute)" to your paymaster. And make sure you sit your big fat arse on the "untouched" reserves as required by your paymaster (miw's) should the incumbent be voted out in 2016!