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    Give the PAP a wake-up call: WP’s Sylvia Lim

    WP chairman Sylvia Lim takes to the stage at Moulmein-Kallang rally. (Reuters photo)WP chairman Sylvia Lim takes to the stage at Moulmein-Kallang rally. (Reuters photo)Workers' Party chairman Sylvia Lim has called on voters to give the ruling People's Action Party a "wake-up call" in this General Elections.

    Referring to the aftermath of the 1991 GE, when the PAP was "stunned" after losing four seats in Parliament, she said, "What happened after 1991... showed that the PAP takes election results very seriously. Poor election results... improve your life."

    Speaking before an estimated 12,000 people at a rally in Moulmein-Kallang GRC rally on Monday night, she added, "If you vote for the opposition, the PAP will wake up and take concrete steps to address your concerns."

    Besides the four seats lost in 1991, the PAP's overall share majority dropped to 61 per cent -- its worst electoral showing since independence.

    The results led to the PAP to form a cost review committee to study concerns about the rising cost of living, Lim said.

    Lim, who is part of WP's "A team" that's contesting the hotseat of Aljunied GRC, went on to say, "If you vote for the PAP and give them a high mandate, the PAP will take you for granted and ignore your concerns."WP's Sylvia Lim has called on voters to give the PAP a "wake-up call." (Yahoo! photo)WP's Sylvia Lim has called on voters to give the PAP a "wake-up call." (Yahoo! photo)At the same rally, WP secretary-general Low Thia Khiang also called for a change in the Constitution so that all male election candidates would have to serve National Service first before being eligible for election.

    Without naming any names, Low said the PAP should not field a candidate "who just became a new citizen without serving National Service."

    It's been reported that PAP new face Janil Puthucheary, 38, only became a citizen in 2008 and has not gone through NS.

    Low said even his party's star candidate, Taiwan-born Chen Show Mao, had served NS before taking up citizenship in 1986.

    He said, "This is only fair to us. We have all done national service, including myself, including Chen Show Mao!" to loud cheers and applause from the crowd.

    Low also picked up on his argument that the PAP government was abusing its power by employing public organisations such as HDB residents' committees (RCs) and the People's Association to assist them in their election activities.

    He shared an example of an Aljunied resident who told him that his RC chairperson had contacted him to inform him of the details of a PAP rally to be held that evening. He asked the crowd, "Why is the RC promoting the PAP rally?" to shouts of "Kelong!" from the audience.

    Low also shared that he had posed a question about the opposition's inability to build branch offices in parliament, asking why he had to sit at an HDB void deck to conduct Meet the People Sessions for the past 20 years.WP's trump card Chen Show Mao launches an attack on the incumbent party. (Yahoo! photo) WP's trump card Chen Show Mao launches an attack on the incumbent party. (Yahoo! photo) Chen, who also took to the stage to rousing cheers, questioned the discrepancy between the growth in Singapores' economy over the past year (14.5%) and the rise in median income (3%), asking why average income was only half of GDP per capita, and where the other half had gone.

    He also criticised the rising retirement age, citing Minister in the Prime Minister's office Lim Boon Heng's comment that it may rise to 68 soon.

    Saying "man cannot live by GDP alone", the top corporate lawyer pointed out that while inflation for the year is nearing 5%, interest rates in CPF accounts remains at 2.5%, asking the crowd if it was a rate that provided good returns that were sufficient for retiring at age 62.

    Touching on the issue of foreign talent in Singapore, he said, "It's tough for the rest of us," he said. "The goal post keeps getting moved back, and we have to keep dribbling past young foreign players trying to take the ball away."

    Referring to Minister for Trade and Industry Lim Hng Kiang's earlier comment that keeping foreigners to one-third of the population is "a severe limitation", Mao asked the crowd: "Did he ask you if one-third is the right number? Why not one-quarter? One fifth?"

    To the crowd's loud bellows of "NO!", he said: "Perhaps we should send someone to parliament to ask him."

    Many in the audience felt WP's rally speeches resonated with them.

    Ms Tay, a Bishan resident in her 40s, told Yahoo! Singapore, “I agree that CPF is an issue, as is housing, and it’s very true -- where did the other 11.5% go? I just came to listen to them speak. Sylvia Lim is very good and relevant, and so is Chen Show Mao.”

    Married couple Michael, 34, scheduler and Lina Chan, 33, an oil and gas buyer, also travelled down from their home in Woodlands to listen to what WP had to say.

    Their verdict?

    “Most of the proposals tabled are very feasible in the near future,' said Michael.

    "The atmosphere was very good, very exciting. We wanted to come to listen to them talk, to hear another perspective, because we’re both used to thinking that the PAP is the one we should vote. I now think otherwise,” said Lina.

    Chimed in Catherine Yeo, 42, an East Coast GRC resident who arrived at the rally two hour early to stake out a front-row seat, "The topics that the WP candidates touch on are Singaporean voices. They are real and I support them.” 

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    646 comments

    • Objective guy  •  1 year 0 months ago
      Let me tell you from my personal experience and what my friends have discussed over the rally.

      We feel that foreign talents are necessary. But excessive foreign talents are not healthy.

      Just like if you love to eat ice-cream. It is good. But excessively eating of ice-cream is really bad for your health and stomach.

      If foreign talents could not speak two common languages, I think conflicts of living with them will occur.

      Imaging yourself living with a China PR, if they only speak chinese, do you think our fellow Malays or Indians will communicate with them? That is what happen to my Malay Neighbours. They do not like the China PR living with us. It is not that the PR are bad, we must ensure that they can really integrate into our society.

      I am a Chinese, I find living together with these Chinese PRs are very challenging. They speak loudly early in the morning to wake us up, they scolded my mother with their native Chinese dialects, they are rude (not all of them) . They treated their grandchildren like gold and treated other children like dirt. (One child policy culture remember!!)

      I do not know what to say about these foreign talents...... are they really foreign talents...... I believe there are real foreign talents but the are sure to have these grey areas where local can do these jobs too.

      Foreign company do employ locals but I believe to core jobs are given to the foreigners own native people to a certain degree. Which foreign companies will trust us entirely? I doubt that.

      Even in Singapore Government link companies do treasure these foreign talents.....Did they lead by example? I do not know.
      • Winnie 1 year 0 months ago
        In my experience working with FT. Firstly, the FT manager was recruited. Next, the majority of the department has been replaced by the FT manager's "FT" subordinates. In my opinion, the jobs previously done by locals have been replaced by "FT" But i am not certain how talented they are!
      • Yahoo User 1 year 0 months ago
        Excellent story! It illustrates generally the situation we are all in except in the rich man's area.
      • mike 1 year 0 months ago
        those prs who are here so enough and start their own business and they too brought in their own kakis. first of all, all the hell can the mom or acra or the law allows prs to start business and bring thier own natives without any check or control????
    • Common People  •  1 year 0 months ago
      I served 2.5 years in National Sevice and have witnessed sweat, blood and death by our servicemen for the sake of our nation. I totally agree with Mr Low that all male citizen should serve National Service in order for them to be eligible for election.

      For those who agree with Mr Low, please gives a thumb up and those who think NS is not important criteria (as suggested by the ex BG of PAP) you can give a thumb down.
      • kerry 1 year 0 months ago
        No, Sylvia, you can't wake up PAP, they are always awake but opt to turn a deaf ear and closed eyes pretend to be sleeping. You have to wake up many ill-informed folks who still naively believe whatever published on brainwasher newspapers and mesmeriser news on TV.
      • Paymee Moore 1 year 0 months ago
        National Service should without the protection of the SIB officers beside them, LHL and son of Minsters were very well protection during ther NS time - they have very special treatment during the NS.
      • Colin 1 year 0 months ago
        I say, go a step further and make all PR wanting to be citizens serve NS. If they want a piece of the pie they have to work for it with commitment. Why should I and my sons serve NS to protect these people who will turn tail and run when we need them most to defend the country.
    • tax heaven  •  1 year 0 months ago
      Mah Bow Tan just mentioned that the no of years we have to pay to service our HDB loans is irrelevant?

      This is a prelude to saying that though our mortgage is 30 years now, it should not be a problem when he streches this to 40, 50, 100 years in the future.

      This confirms that PAP never considered that our HDB flats are owned. Thsy are merely renting to us with the sales gimmick of telling us that we own them.

      Well done, MBT. I shall definitely vote you out!
      • Ade 1 year 0 months ago
        If the loan term is stretched, how about the interest the home owner got to pay?
      • Sg Ge 1 year 0 months ago
        If we allow PAP / MBT to goes on, you need to service your loan for 99 years. And when you are done with the loan, it is time the goverment take it back.
      • A Yahoo! User 1 year 0 months ago
        MBT better revise his HDB sentence. MBT, you either wise up or GTFO.
    • Ya right!  •  1 year 0 months ago
      Before, I was totally oblivious to politics. I don't even know the names of our ministers! I have been ignorant and contented...thinking that the government has been doing a good job.

      But as years go by, I start to have more and more questions...
      Why is our Ministers' pay peg to GDP when our pay have to stay low in order to be competitive??
      Why are there no accountability on how all the money collected via tax, COE, ERP etc were spent??
      Why do the town councils have so much reserve that they could invest in funds like the Lehman Brothers? If they have so much reserve, why can't we pay lesser??
      Why do I feel that the Ministers are never shameful or truly apologetic for their mistakes and why are they not punished? eg. why do they still get bonus!!
      Why do PAP has the right to change the "Singapore Map" as and when they please for the GE??

      Previously, I was working in a firm that assist our clients with their employees' immigration matters such as the application of Employment Passes and other related passes. This is what I noticed :
      IT jobs in the bank - most are filled by Indians from India. The average salary is $5k per month, they would be paid less than 1k at home for the same job. They would bring their wife, parents, parents-in-law and children. This means for every Indian 'foreign talent' hired, there may be 6 or even more foreigners staying in Singapore who are not employed but take up our space! They would then try to apply for PR for the whole family!

      The rest of the 'foreign talents' hired would bring their partner or spouse and have lots of children here. cos hiring maid or any other helper are cheaper here than in their home country!

      On average, I handled a total of 100 to 200 cases per month. This is why I became alarmed at the number of foreigners entering our country!!

      I learned that there are many students from China, Pakistan, Indonesia etc that were studying at our universities on our government scholarship and automatically receive temporary employment passes and invitation for PR application so that they can start work immediately after they graduate while they apply for PR. Our local graduates have to compete with these foreigners for the good jobs every year!

      There was a case that makes me really pissed. This 'ang moh' owns a company in Singapore that hires less than 100 workers. He wants to apply PR for himself and his family. However, he has a son and he does not want his son to serve national service! He said something like "why should my son serve NS! If I leave, Singapore will lose the jobs my company created and the money I'm investing! Can you talk to the ICA about this."

      To me, all these that are happening tells me that the current ruling party is indeed not doing a good job. I really hope that the Opposition parties will win more seats in the Parliament to wipe off the smirk on these Ministers' faces!
      • B.H. 1 year 0 months ago
        Vote this PAP out.
      • RLSC 1 year 0 months ago
        SM - GCT says that the citizens are not concern about the ministers salary.....read in the latest news report...
      • Ya right! 1 year 0 months ago
        Many big organisations employs both internal and external auditors to audit them. But at the end of each fiscal year, they still need to provide reports to their shareholders to show them how they have performed. Shouldn't the government do something similar?

        What you have mentioned about retaining the best talent is true. I agree that there are always pros and cons, yin and yang in everything. However, too much of either would be bad. We must try to strike a balance. I just want feel that the government to understand how we feel and what our worries are. I wish I can see them making efforts to strike the balance. I understand it is not a easy task but if they are truthful and sincere in their efforts and explain to me, I would understand. I would not understand any of their efforts if all I can hear are threats for not voting them and blaming us for whatever (eg. low birth rate).

        Yes, investing in the best talent is important but dun we have local talents that needs to be invested on?? If the amount of money spent on these foreign students are spend on more of our local students, to cultivate our own local talent. Is this not good? Or do you mean that the smart ones are all out there and none here? I'm not saying it is wrong to give scholarships to foreign students but I'm just afraid that too many has been given out. Can the government educate us on their selection criteria? What is the ratio between the number of local students and foreign students getting scholarships?

        Lastly, I strongly disagree to your last statement. Besides the country's GDP, there are also other issues that are important to our nation ie. Pride, Dignity and Respect! Money is not everything!! How can we let these foreigners step all over us?? What would they think of us?? If all investors like this 'ang moh' gets away with this just cos they are investing big money, what difference is there between Singapore and other countries that have corrupted governments??
    • Helmi Y1980  •  1 year 0 months ago
      I am a PAP lifelong supporter. However it seems my favorite party in the parliament had slackened in their work. A lot of short cuts had been made. A lot of mistakes had also been made. But there were no apologies from any of the PAP members.

      For the last 5years since joining the workforce, I did not receive any benefits from the government. I am a Singaporean and I was born in the land once called Temasek. I am willing to protect my country with all my heart.

      I am proud of Sang Nila Utama, Sir Stamford Raffles, Lee Kuan Yew, Goh Keng Swee and many others. They got here, faced challenges and became pioneers.

      I guess we do need external auditors to check on our young generation of PAP. So that every actions carried out by our 'People Action Party' will be thoroughly supervised. The new auditors will members of Workers Party, Reform Party, National Solidarity Party, Singapore Democratic Party, Singapore People Party and Singapore Democratic Alliance.

      All future incoming new policies will be for the benefit of the real true born Singaporean. I have nothing against foreigners who are willing to come here and earn their honest effort. However I felt that Singapore is not ready to have 6.5 million new citizens in 2years.

      Dear opposition parties, thank you for bringing back the 'Kallang Roar' back in our country. I really missed those times. Your rallies are so inspiring. Keep up with the good work.

      The real bosses of Singapore
      True Born Singaporean
      (the one with birth certificate, NRIC Pink, NS certificate)
      • mike 1 year 0 months ago
        wll said.
      • fed up 1 year 0 months ago
        aiyo talk so much for what? cast the right vote lah!
      • Angie 1 year 0 months ago
        The Fact. There must be a realisation that somehow, something is not right in Singapore. Things (like our national assets/reserves) are kept hidden from us. Ong Teng Cheong, in his capacity as elected president, had a tough fight with the ruling party over the true amount of our reserves. You should be worrying, too, if we do not vote opposition parties in to act as check and balance - because, ultimately, you have a stake in the reserves, whether it is for nation building, or for other causes for Singaporeans. We do not want to discover, one fine day, that the reserves had never been utilised/guarded properly for the benefit of Singaporeans.
    • Nan Li  •  1 year 0 months ago
      I was taking a taxi the other day, the driver is a middle-age man around 40-45 and dressed quite nicely (i mean usually i imagine taxi driver to have crumble shirts, worn out shoes etc..) and I was quite surprise that when he talk, his English is very eloquent. After chatting with him, I realised that he was a Senior Service Delivery Manager of a very well respected MNC here and have MBA from NUS. After so many years working in Singapore, he has been replaced by a foreign talent from India who demand only half his salary, and due to his age, the company decide to go for the younger and cheaper. At first he thought it was just because the other candidate is more competitive than him, so he even tried to negotiate his salary package down in order to keep his job as his kids are still in school. However, the hard truth is the new director that come in a few months ago is an American Idian (originally from India) and needless to say his negotitation was fruitless. I was very emotional after hearing the story, the man is very eloquent, have gone through extensive education and has many years of experience, yet he is easily replaced by a foreigner with doubtful credentials and unknown background. When I reached my destination, I asked him to give me his number so that I can call him if there is some job opportunity arises that I am aware of. He pull out from his pocket his old name card, use his pen to cross over the front page of the card and write down his handphone number in the back before giving it to me. Just this guesture of him show how professional he is, even after being retrenced from the company, he still know his due diligence to cross over the name card to indicate that he is not an employee there any more. Yet he is still replaced by a cheaper foreign talent, in his home country
    • songanddance  •  1 year 0 months ago
      We need a strong Opposition in Parliament to rebalance the political playing field for Singaporeans.
      This is a great opportunity for all voters to send in the Opposition to review all that is not right in our country...and make the government be accountable for its actions.
      I want to see the operations of Temasek Holdings, GIC, People's Association, and all grassroots organisations etc reviewed and be accountable to Singaporeans.
      Special commitees drawn from Parliament and members of the public should be set up to look into the manner in which these public institutions are being run.
    • Puny Shrimp  •  1 year 0 months ago
      Well, I do not want a Rojak gahman also.

      We need to hear voices from both sides before we can cast our vote to the best party.

      1) GST.

      GST is good and needed for our country development.
      However is there a slight possibility that GST can be excluded from basic necessities like food.
      If exclusion is not an option, can we toggle the rates so as to tax lesser on food?

      What is the reason that the Gahman didn’t “think” and “hear” the peoples’ feedback whom the people given the present Gahman the mandate to improve lives of Singaporean?

      2) CPF

      What good reason is that when the Gahman implies we cant manage our money and need the Gahman to act like the adult to give us “pocket money” which in the first place the “pocket money” is ours in the first place.

      Want to raise the retirement age fine, but should not hold back the CPF.

      To my knowledge, senior citizen will contribute lesser to CPF and with the ever increasing “goal post” of the “minimum sum”, we can only enjoy our fruits when we are unable to move as freely and unable to think as clearly. Not everyone is a healthy old man as grandpa Lee who as First Class medical care. Take e.g. of Mr Temporary Endure.

      While Uncle Lee mentioned in his speeches that the Gahman cannot please everyone, I believe the Gahman whom we chosen can give us options on when we want to retire. A range rather than a fixed number is more desirable. It feels that the Gahman is lacking human touch by drawing a line on the computer generated statistic bell curve.

      3) Minister Pay

      Top talent top pay.
      President Obama who “takes responsibility” and ordered the sanction to kill/capture the Top terror head earns lesser than our Top minister who “takes responsibility” and ordered the sacking of his officers.

      Top pay prevents corruption. So Obama is “more corrupted” than our ministers?

      Uncle Lee mentioned that we should not compare ministers in other countries with Singapore as Singapore minister cannot be other countries’ ministers.
      However we are looking at the similar skill sets as quoted from Sylvia Lim.

      Uncle Lee also mentioned that the US president will go on book tours after their terms and earn big bucks.

      One thing to be clear, he can go on book tour is because he has the capability to do so.
      And here in Singapore, we paid the minister “in advance” for his “potential loss” by not going on book tour.

      And we should be asking, why not go on book tour? Why cant they go on book tour or lectures?

      All in all, I m neutral and I m inclined towards seeing facts and logics. These are some of the burning questions that I have and believe most people share the same sentiment.

      Singapore’s progress is a miracle; a legacy. However, should it be an individual efforts or a Nation’s effort?
    • Yahoo User  •  1 year 0 months ago
      Yes, LTK, you are right.

      The ruling party must be desperate. They put in any Tom, Dick and Harry with the likes of Puthucheary and TPL.

      We want the real cherry, not Puthucheary.
    • Darkest Knight  •  1 year 0 months ago
      i totally agree with Sylvia. PAP obviously did not put too much effort in this election. just look at candidates they put out. 3 are questioned by the public, and one of them had to bail out right at the very last minute.

      has this ever happened before? NO. nobody has ever questioned PAP candidates before, not because we don't dare too, but simply because they have always picked very solid people.

      after dominating the parliament by occupying 80 of the 82 seats, they seemed to think that this election will be a walk in the park too. so, now that they find out that they are walking around the mouth of a volcano, what happens? all hell break loose, even wise men start to say silly things.

      like MM lee with his gangster's threat, SM lee with his ungrateful jibe at Mr Tan, labour chief telling us rojak is bad, etc. all these point to an ill-conceived campaign!

      i say, let them loose big. only when PAP loose big, will singapore win huge! because, come next election, they will be more prepared and more stringent in their candidate selection.
    • Sibeisian  •  1 year 0 months ago
      Vote for Worker's Party into Parliament on 7.5.11. Aljunied GRC, Moulmein-Kallang GRC,East Coast GRC, Nee Soon GRC , Hougang SMC, Joo Chiat SMC, SengKang West SMC & Punggol East SMC voters, please vote for CHANGE. 4GRCs + 4SMC = 23 elected MPs in parliament. They are Singaporeans voices in parliament.
    • payout  •  1 year 0 months ago
      not serving NS and run for government, what about the rest of NS serving males? chopped liver?

      this is not acceptable, and should not be acceptable to any Singaporean.
    • BGY  •  1 year 0 months ago
      All Singapore Ministers and MP( exclude women) must serve NS. Government say all Singaporeans from age 18 are compulsory to serve NS. Even if you are the only son in the family. We serve to protect our country! Now we have a young PAP (may be the next) MP who doesn't serve NS! What is this? You expect to stay at HQ and order us to fight in the front line to protect you? How many male ministers and MP in the current government didn't serve NS? Please be fair to ordinary male Singaporeans who had serve 2 or 21/2 years of NS and 13 cycles of reservist.
    • Koh  •  1 year 0 months ago
      I totally agree with Ms Sylvia Lim. Let us stand as united as one Singaporean and give them a wake up call on 07/05/11. This is a day when everything will be change when one opposition GRC goes in the Parliament. Let us pledge together regardless of race, language, religion or any opposition party, we want to have a democratic society.

      I also agree with Mr Low. Only male Singaporean who had enlisted into army will only be elected into parliament. This is indeed fair to us. The hard way we suffers in Army and be fair to us
    • tikus anging  •  1 year 0 months ago
      Chen Show Mao, you are really a true blood Singaporean. You speak impeccable English, no Singlish,with such clarity. The accent is clear Singaporean! I am very proud of you. Sylvia, I can never thank you enough. You are a great leader. When you came door knocking, I told you my concern, and it is being addressed. Emails to you always reply promptly. Workers' Party, you will have my family votes. We will pray for all of you. May God bless Chen Show Mao, Sylvia, Low Thia Khiang, Pritam Singh and all of Workers' Party Team and all the other Oppositions! Be brave! Our Prayers are with all of you. If God is with you, what is man?
    • kenneth  •  1 year 0 months ago
      PAP new face Janil Puthucheary did not serve the NATION. How can he serve the PEOPLE???????
      VOTE FOR CHEN SHOW MAO!!!! VOTE FOR WP!!!!!!
    • A Yahoo! User  •  1 year 0 months ago
      Voters SHOULD NOT BE fearful on making their own decision to vote for capable candidate to be our MPs.

      Looking at the current Opposition Parties with highly qualify and capable candidates and well organize for this GE. Therefore, we MUST fully support all Opposition Parties. All of them are having a heart for all Singaporeans.
      Based on what has been presented in all the Rallies with record turn-out of supporters, it is VERY CLEAR on what the voters want--:

      "More Opposition MPs (in tens of them) to be elected to represent Singaporeans' voice as a form of Checks-and-Balances for Singapore to be the 1st World Nation."

      We need more transparency on all the costing and financial information for Singaporean to understand how our hard earned money from all the Tax Payers of Singapore are used for the INTEREST of the people of Singapore.

      Must support all the opposition parties - WP, SPP, SDP, RP, NSP, SDA to have a good number of opposition MPs (in tens of them).

      It is time for ACTION and Go for it..... Vote for the future together with Opposition Parties .............
    • Grindle  •  1 year 0 months ago
      Pay And Pay is already hopeless.
      To me, they were already dead in my heart. Therefore, its impossible to wake up the dead.
      Their supporters are the one who supposed to wake up.
    • interest  •  1 year 0 months ago
      There are so many great heroes in the opposition camps this election. And Sylvia Lim is definitely one of them. Every speech that Sylvia makes is really relevant and with a great heart for the people. The last five years in Parliament, Sylvia has shown she is better than 10 PAP candidates or more added together.

      It is very difficult to be an opposition member as there is no money at the end of the road. And one wrong word can really make them bankrupt. The govt has all the machinery to check on them past, present and future. Their lives are really under heavy scrutiny. Also, every candidate in the opposition camps is fearless and they are willing to put their lives and family members on the chopping block. There is passion for Singapore in the hearts of the opposition candidates. This quality is hard to find in candidates who just sail through a GRC because the structure of the GRC opens to such abuse.

      Furthermore, there is a silent majority of people who will vote for the PAP. The task by the opposition is really uphill and it will be the saddest day when PAP wins most of the seats this election. ‘More good years’ means more good years to the political party that pays themselves obscene salaries. To the people, without a strong opposition in parliament means ‘More bad years’.
    • Winnie  •  1 year 0 months ago
      No one has talked on Women's concerns at this GE yet. What has THH did for women? Women on 4 months confinement are living in fear in lost of job! How are we suppose to improve birth rate?! Increase of the number of childcare centres does not solve the problem at all!

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