Tan Kin Lian: Suggestions are within the Constitution

The president only performs ceremonial duties n nothing else.Let see what the new president can do for us.Fight for Singaporean to release the CPF to Singaporeans upon reaching 55.Than u are people's president.CPF is the main issue that cause lots of resentment among Singaporeans.Like I say put a vote to Singaporeans.Mayb some may not agree ,than they can leave it in CPF but I believe majority wants their CPF to be release.We hope we get an answer soon. Singaporeans are waiting ... Pl give us an answer-so u can see we have to beg to the government for our own money to be released... we are beggers ....

I only have a simple question, to quote Mr Nathan: "Mr Tan or whoever can have all the ideas about what to do, but you must remember that the presidency operates by the Constitution.

"What is possible and what is not possible is determined by that. So, I won't want to belittle his enthusiasm. If he can do it, good luck to him."

Then Mr Nathan is only agreeing that the president is in fact, indeed, powerless, so why would we need a president? And one that is so highly paid??

Unless the Constitution is changed for the Presidents powers ,this is merely a ceremonial position. Its an insult to an intelligent person to seek this role.

Firstly, as we all know, and kept saying...President seat should be abolished, if he is not even some power to disclose our Reserves. Many of these are our money, CPF.
Now, those getting into the 55 or 65, are telling us...the late 40s... you wont be seeing your money in the cpf...

Why? CPF choking the Reserves, or the Reserves went too low, that the Cabinet set up the Consitution not allowing to be disclosed.?

It is true, if the investment such as GIC or Tamasek is disclosed fully in DETAILs, this would harm Singapore investment and open to fierce competition thus we lose out.

Can we have a balance sheet, to show how much (in percentage terms) of our CPF is invested in each industries...and or in what region...?

Consitution ... who set this up... PAP Government... so isnt the President just a puppet ?

We need a People President, not puppet President... Dont test our patience, Consitution can be amended... if the PAP Government seriously listening to 40% if not 90% of our wish..

We better know how much we have, than allowing Temasek family to continue making use of our Cpf money to make foregin relationship at our unsafe and unknown expense.

Cpf is our personal blood and sweat... why allow someone to play with it, and we merely take that 4% or 2.5%....?

How much we left when we retired is yet to be worried for all of us.

Do we want to know, until the day when we kick the bucket to realise we are idiot...?

Disclosing the balance sheet can be done in many ways, not necessarily to disclose
our weakness to foreign countries.

We are number one in almost everything.... can't we be number in disclosure and at the same time, protection...

Are these leaders running out of idea to work for tomorrow or are they leading us to continue believe in darkness...?

President Nathan talk as if he is very wise but he actually good for nothing and simply get so much $$$ and getting fat and swelling every parts including his bank account. At least TKL make suggestion and he talk garbage. The poor old uncle and aunt lose all their cost of coffin and
saving to the banks that cheated them through false presentation of their financial. I recalled only Mr.TKL tried to fight for justice in this very sad situation but this so-called now want to give utter rubbish to TKL as he did not even open his mouth when so many old uncle and aunty seeking for help from the authority that stood on the side of the rich banks. The lau GohTong did nothing to help but only protect DBS bank that cheat through false presentation. Old Nathan - keep your hole shut..no respect for you

Mr. Nathan said "What is possible and what is not possible is determined by that (the Constitution). So, I won't want to belittle his (Tan KL) enthusiasm. If he (Tan KL) can do it, good luck to him."
To put in another way, the president is a puppet!!
Since we can’t scrap the president’s post, let’s elect a non-PAP president to send a strong signal that;
1.We are not happy that PAP creates a million dollars president to toe his lines
2.We are not happy that PAP takes all
3.We are not happy that PAP controls all
4.We are not happy that PAP dictates all
It does not matter whether it is a black cat or a white cat, as long as it is not a PAP's cat!

Mr Nathan, if you do not have the guts to speak up for the people please step aside and let some one with the heart to do so. It is irrelevant what is possible and what is not possible within the constitution, at least no one can fault you for not speaking up or blame you for not trying.

Preventing Singaporean at old age to withdraw thei CPF is immoral. All the MPs including the so call president is drawing so much, their money can last for three generations. That is to say their money will not finished in this life...so much money left for his after life. Our CPF only for this life, some not even enough. Do you think is right thing to do? Mr Nathan, how much money you have in your bank account? Now you tell us you want to run for Presidency again, don't you feel a sham? What you have don't for Singaporeans? We should abolished the President if it has no significant meaning for Singaporeans. Mr. Nathan, if you are in my position, what you think?
If I were you, I will do like Tan Kin Lian Said, donate 50% to help the people. What you want to do with your money? Bring to havean or hell? From what I know money can't use in havean. Only in hell you need lots of money to redeem sins. So, what you think?

"Mr Nathan was quoted as saying: "Mr Tan or whoever can have all the ideas about what to do, but you must remember that the presidency operates by the Constitution" ??? This shows that we do not need a president, just the "constitution" will do!!! Who is this constitution??? The PAP???

The elected president is supposed to hold the so-named 2nd key to open the doors to our reserves (note : it's ours, singapore, not PAP). So it's important that the president listens to the people voice (it's not 'noise' as termed by Mr Nathan the PAP president).

This 2nd key is to ensure that the singapore government does not spend away our hard-earned reserves in a reckless & irresponsible manner. In other words, this is a check against the ruling government...i.e. PAP. However, who makes this 2nd key?

The black-smith (PAP) that prepared & made this 2nd key design it according to his ideas & fancies.
PAP, on paper & in words, states that the elected president is independent as far as the authorisation of the use of our reserves is concern.

How true or even accurate is this statement?

The fact that an elected president, who is supposed to safe-guard out reserves, does not even know what or how much he is protecting - is a mockery of the entire system.
In other words, the elected president may not know even when the reserves had been spend.

How to know when he is denied access to the details? What is the balance now? What is the balance end of the year? PM Lee knows. And the wife also, maybe?

The 2nd key is actually non-functional. The key held by PAP is the only key & it can be used anytime PAP deem fit. No one would want to be tied down unnecessarily & to make things difficult for themselves.

And that the reality, & that's life.

Almost dropped off my chair when I read that President Nathan will only reveal more in his upcoming book. He then added he may consider running again....If so and if he indeeds get voted in again, the "story book" will be certainly held back...Mm..interestingly how the press pieced this report together and thus adding to the confusion in the EP race for millions of dollars...Mmm...Can anyone help enlighten pls ?

I do not want a Ex-PAP as next President !!! Nothing will change !!!

What is the point of having hundred of thousand $$$ in our cpf, when we merely have ten over $$$ in our pocket after we retired and jobless???

No1 task at hand if any of the presidential candidate really wants to help the poor singaporeans.. release our CPF MONIES back to us!!

our president SR Nathan coming out of his shell to declare that there isn't much in his power to lead changes and so he is the Kiah Lai Kiah Ker President Cho Bor Lan and some more Kiok Ani Chuay Bhan --- for two terms collected huge salaries and bonuses now ranked amongst the Millionaires while the people are sufferings -- how can he live his life in this manner -- how can a President be so self-centred when selflessness should be the key traits -- how ? just how?

definitely the fundamentals of PAP has rot over the years that even the President is now deep into the decay

should an alternative voice is voted into power i am very certain that the worms will crawl out including the maggots

Has anyone wondered why the PAP is so afraid to reveal what our reserves are? After all the reserves belong to the people and why should the people be kept in the dark as to what they have in the reserves? If even the President, who is supposed to guard the reserves, CANNOT know about the reserves then I am very very worried!!!!!!!

Nathan is saying that he is taking millions of taxpayers' monies and doing nothing all these years. This is so disgusting!

Ah yes, I can see who is gunning for president or rather gunning down the other indirectly to remain as president. Thats why we have the Kopi Tiam for good old retired men to sit down, have a hot kopi "O" and talk about the good old days with some good old friends who had supposedly retired. Get the message sir?

The PAP may have softened their approach after the GE. PM Pinky Lee may seem like he's trying to reform his government's management style by being more open, listening to feedback, etc. But I can bet you my last dollar, the person who becomes our next elected president will be a PAP lackey. They will not compromise on that. The very purpose of having the EP is so that the EP will ensure a rogue government will not dip into the reserves and spend it as they see fit, as Potong Pasir (the poster and resident PAP lackey) pointed out repeatedly throughout this post. Rogue government of course, refers to any other government but PAP. So since the PAP thinks they can be assured of their behaviour, it's their fear of one day the alternative party coming into power. They hope that when that day comes, the EP will exercise his discretionary powers and check them.

C'mon people, did you really think the EP has been democratically elected all this while? They (PAP) made a mistake with OTC, and learnt their lesson. Never again will they make that mistake. They will somehow find a way to disqualify all those whom they think are a threat. Remember how the present incumbent got "elected"?