Weak govt will see S’pore ‘spiral downwards’: Lee Kuan Yew

Singaporeans are aping the west to clamour for changing the old guard for the young new guard who may take you down the same road as EU and US as they are now in debt due to warrism and welfarism which other African, Arabian and Asian nations are following to their detriment and regret would be too late as their countries end in choas after internal strifes!

We Singaporeans do not believe you, Mr Lee Kuan Yew.

Prove to us Singaporeans as a candidate for EP if you believe it is so. Simple as that.

We Singaporeans will prove you wrong, that's for sure.

The outcome is 70%* not in your favour. (* 60/2 + 40 = 70)

Mr Lee,

Do you seriously expect any intelligent and right-minded person to take your political comments seriously? They are all simply self-serving. After all who will expect you to praise anything other than a one-party system since that is the system that has kept you in power all these years and is the system that you want to retain to (hopefully) keep your son in power into the future. Furthermore, in your entire political career, you have never had anything good to say about any system other than the one you practise. So much for objectivity.

And at this advanced age, don't you feel even a slight embarrassment at your constant self-praise and credit-grabbing? It is always YOU who built Singapore, always YOU who brought Singapore from Third World to First, always YOU who did everything right for Singapore! Get off your high horse! How conveniently you forget all the thousands of others who sacrificed and pulled together to see Singapore through its early days. How conveniently you forget the generation of my parents who were willing to give you a chance. How conveniently you forget the other key founders of the original PAP.

If the Singapore that YOU have created is so wonderful a nation, tell me why it is the only nation in the world that needs to have such a contrived, scripted and "rehearsed to death" Independence celebration (or NDP in typical acronym-hungry Singapore) EVERY YEAR which costs milions of taxpayer dollars to stage. Why are we the only nation that needs to commission new NDP songs and cheers every year? Why do we need the subtle indoctrination of having Primary 5 kids compulsorily attend the NDP full-dress rehearsals (ostensibly called the "NE Show") every year?

If the Singapore that YOU claimed to have created using your beloved one-party system is such a wonderful nation and such a beacon to the world, then should not all Singaporeans already be nation-loving and with great natural pride in their nation without all these artificiality? If your much-vaunted one-party system of government is so superior to other systems, then why are Singaporeans so lacking in the nationalism and great love for country that are evident in other nations that are not, and have not been, governed by one-party systems?

At your age and with your much-acclaimed wisdom, surely you do not still expect us to believe that the PAP has a monopoly on the capable and honest people in this country. History has already shown that the PAP has had its share of the corrupt and the dishonest. Surely you don't wish to insult the intelligence of Singaporeans by sweeping all that under the carpet and just claim that those were mere aberrations?

May I be so bold as to make a humble suggestion Mr Lee? Please just enjoy a quiet retirement and I really mean quiet. Don't give any more speeches and don't make any more statements. And maybe you would stand a chance of not completely chipping away whatever credible legacy you may still have left. Don't worry! Even if you stop going around the world making self-serving speeches, Singapore will still be here and the Earth will still rotate!

Don't ignore. It can be helped, Mr. Lee.

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We do care. We can help. (Singaporeans)

God bless you, Mr. Lee (Father of God)

The Straits Times had a very interesting article on May 8th 2011 entitled “‘Advocate of reform’ leaves the scene”. I was quite happy to read that George Yeo was one of the most progressive among the PAP leadership. I liked how he disagreed with the party’s style since the very beginning he entered politics over 20 years ago. I liked what The Straits Times wrote here:
He has long been described as a liberal, almost a dirty word in some circles in the PAP. While he squirms at the label, he has said that ‘there is a certain positive aspect of being liberal which I like’ – ‘the sense of equality, the sense of the individual’.

However, it continued:
Asked in 1999 whether he has not lived up to the expectations of progressive Singaporeans, he said that his fundamental positions have not changed much.
But he has ‘grown older, hopefully wiser and politically more mature and experienced’, he said.
I think he wasn’t able to carry out any reforms in the PAP simply because it’s hard to go against the system. It’s better to put pressure on it from outside like what the voters and WP have done and are doing.

In this sense, I’m not so saddened by George leaving because he didn’t really seem to do much of what he wanted to but there was something greater at stake here and it was imperative WP won Aljunied for the sake of the whole of Singapore’s future.
If he’s still true to his idealism, then George Yeo should be happy about one thing: that WP is in parliament and they can now do what he’s failed to do for 20 years – that is, bring reform to the PAP.

But maybe it’s time for him to do something that could actually bring reform in the PAP: join an opposition party, help them get more credibility and better candidates and be a positive influence over them. When you bow out of politics, you’ll be a hero. Not that you want to be one, but do it for the sake of Singapore! The best thing that any outgoing PAP MP can do for the country is to help the various opposition parties. This would be a true national service for the sake of the future of Singapore.

One reason why strong alternative voices in parliament are needed (besides the fact this gives us options and helps us better think through what the best policies are) is simply because the PAP can never guarantee that their party will always have Singapore’s best interest at heart.

But nobody can guarantee that PAP will always have people with good hearts. And if one day they don’t and they are fully dominant with no alternative voices in parliament, Singapore will pay the price severely and the PAP and Lee Kuan Yew’s legacy of having created a strong party that transformed Singapore could be destroyed in an instant – by the very same party whose authoritarian style is suited more to the past than the present or the future.

1.He locked up oppositions for life in the 60's.
2.He bankrupted oppositions in 70's n 80's.
3.He stepped down in 90's but retained his power n influence in 90's
4.He behaved like god to say whatever he wants after 2,000.
5.He is a burden to the current PM n all Singaporean now.

DEAR EMM LEE,

WE ARE HOPING THAT YOU WILL WITNESS THE DOWNFALL OF PAP TYRANNY IN GE2016.

HOPE YOU STILL ALIVE....!!!!!!

OR MAYBE YOU CAN WAKE UP FROM YOUR GRAVE IF SOMETHING HAPPEN TO SINGAPORE...!!!!!!!

PROVE IT TO US GEN-Y.....THAT YOU ARE A GOD...!!!!!!!!!

. I could never support a party whose history has been tainted by such an evil past. And I find it hard to respect people who do so because to me this is equivalent with being complicit with the PAP and what it has done in the past. Of course most PAP MPs and supporters I’m sure wouldn’t agree with the past actions of the PAP.

However, you can’t just brush all this aside. No one person’s suffering is any less than the other. But so have past political opponents. And even worse, some of them have gone through not just emotional, but also physical, suffering. Until the present PAP leadership deals with their past faults (renounces them and apologizes for them), it’s gonna be hard for me to respect any of them that much.

Lee Kuan Yew and his style of politics are for a different era and yet the PAP doesn’t seem to have changed that much. And if it has really changed, I would want to see the PAP address the past, apologize for it and compensate those affected so we can move on. This is something I’m quite firm on: the past wrongs need to be addressed and no suffering should be overlooked. The moment we start to overlook injustices that have been done to people and tell ourselves that all that is in the past, is the moment we start to lose our morals and sense of justice. It wouldn’t be long before we start justifying all sorts of oppression and evils.

However, I don’t think that will happen any time soon as the PAP in the present is still caught up with a similar, though less extreme, kind of dirty politics of the previous era as shown through the policies of the GRC, gerrymandering and the use of upgrading to bribe voters.

Now, I’m actually hoping that despite the fact that no PAP MPs have actually come out publicly against any of the above (at least I think none have), debate about these issues have taken place behind closed doors. I’m giving them the benefit of the doubt that many PAP MPs actually do have morals and do stand up for justice.

However, I think there comes a time when enough is enough and if your party still doesn’t listen to you, you need to have the moral courage to put justice and your principles above your friendships and speak out against your party and even leave the party if necessary.

He arrest people aligned or are communists if not accused them as Marxists and yet today he PRAISE the Communists in China.

Hypocrite is far too good a word to describe him.

Weak govt spiral Singapore downwards? YES, you are right.

Weak govt with ministers & MPs selected based on relations (Eg TPL. No more based on talent).

Weak govt with incapable & yet expensive ministers...
to exceed YOG budget by the hundreds of millions;
to let terrorist escape easily;
to allow flooding of our most reputable Orchard Road again & again;
to keep increasing transport charges (Weak mgt in coping with the cost);
to let its people pay through the nose for a shelter;
to make public housing sell/buy at private housing prices;
to get just a weak, miserable & ashame 56% support for a MM;
to make Singapore the 2nd gambliing nation (I believe very soon to be 1st) in the world;
to make it's people suffer a living with TOO many PRs (I agree we need PRs but too many now);
to let the COE/ERP keep rising & yet the trafffic still remain conjested
& many many more, will sooner or later spiral the nation downward.

Some of my friends also said that if the opposition parties have nothing to offer, then they have no qualification to query the ruling party’s policy.

To me, it’s simply game theory. Will you tell your opposing party your solution before you take the test? After all, it’s the ruling party that is paid millions to offer policy solutions. Why would you offer your solution to them for free? I understand some might call it selfish. But let’s face it, it’s a political struggle for every election. Given the poor records of how PAP puts down the opposition, it is very likely the ruling party will give themselves credit after adopting solutions offered by the opposition party.

Mr. Tan Jee Say, who had extensive experience in the civil service, is easily more experienced in policy modeling than all that ex-generals, 7-year grassroot leader who had husband whose current job is Mr Tan’s previous job, new citizen doctors and banking directors the PAP had pushed out in this election.

It is the PAP, with the help of the media it controls, that blacks out our news. That's the only way the ruling party can oppositions -- not by competing with us on ideas but preventing voters from hearing and reading what we have to say.

Not only have we come up with ideas, these alternative proposals are also constructive and workable. Would the Prime Minister and his MPs adopt them if they were not?

The truth of the matter is that the economy should be run by the people and they are the ones the Government should listen to, not the so-called experts. In fact, it is the “experts” whom MM and his ministers have been listening to who have caused the current financial mess the world finds itself.

One thing is absolutely clear, policy-making involves listening to the people and making sensible choices. For this to take place democracy and the freedom to speak are indispensable tools.

Do you think that the PAP is still the only capable ones around? Think again

Mr LKY I am the sandwich generation. Born after you but not the new GEN-Y age. But I too have changed over the years. I respect you for what you have done previously but isn't it time to move on and not brat about it too much. Nobody can take away your honour. We are forever gratified.

I have believed in the PAP all my life but in this 2011 GE I have decided that it is time to give other worthy opponents a chance to prove themselves. Therefore I voted for the opposition. Hope people of my age will try to see things differently now and change for the better.

We are already on a downward spiral with PAP leadership, only those in it are too prideful and blind to see. GDP alone does not show the health of a country. Based solely on past credits, that is why most Singaporeans have been tolerant with PAP for so many years. But don't think that LYK and PAP are so high and holy.

It is plain naive to think that we actually believe there is absolutely no corruption, no nepotism, big pay checks to leaders are justified, monopoly and state-controlled companies are best for our economy... Talking down at Singaporeans all the time with stupid reasoning. MIWs are just full of high-pay-to-stay-non-corrupted scholarly leaders who just write nice party songs to sing along. Sigh! Shame on those who claimed to be listening to the people and acting all the way.

I have stopped reading Straits Times for a long time. And really, no news from PAP is good news. What is new?

Under your Mentorship, sir, you failed to
1 Reprimand and sack Wong Kan Sing when he let a highly dangerous terrorist escaped right under his nose. This act of Condoning is Weakness!
2 Allow your son to be his own man. Even at mid life he has to look to you for directions. You made him weak and lost.
3 Think of better ideas to create more jobs, so you took the easy way( yet immoral way
Out) to bulks 2 casinos. That is weakness in the face of adversity.
4 Allow credible opposing views to your pet policies. That is a sure sign of lacking in self confidence.... Again I call this weakness.
5 To give Singapore back to Singaporeans. You fail to let go. That's insecurity.

Singapore success is due to Singaporeans who had been strong enough to bear with your Authoritrian style with it's many u turns and changing policies. We took your excesses like a man, you just grew from bad to mad!

Now it's time for you to grow up , own up and repent!

Long time ago, i believed Singapore is good in almost everythings. But, after the LHL came on as a minister, i feel something is not right. Then, as expected, he really took over as PM. I gave up totally as this is like old empire system.

Headlines reads: Weak govt will see Singapore "spiral downwards" - Lee Kuan Yew.

At last he says something that I can agreed upon. Our current govt is indeed the weakest we have seen to date. I believe a government that is out of touch and reach with its people had already lost its moral authority to govern.

Isn't it time for the opposition to step up?

It is OK to spiral downwards so long as we live . Better still we may enjoy the ride and find a way to come up again . If we do not learn to fail , worse still we cannot survive the next storm because we avoided failure ...

The important thing is that each man has a better chance to survive FOR the present . Do not think about the future and us going down .

Right now , we are already dying in our own country .

LKY still has great influence in PAP though he might have stepped down. As just an MP, he still meets top officiasl from other countries. Most recent was the meeting with the vice premier of China.
Why is he navigating the sail to China now? Because China is booming in their economy,and to be a superpower soon, overtaking the US and the West.The US and Europe have withered because of their bleak economy and debt. Singapore were once dependant on the west to boost our economy and become what we are now a developed country, and now he is praising China. We didn't hear him mentioned about China in the the 50's and even the 60's when the communist country was in a chaotic state. Another reason why LKY criticised the western politics because they have many parties and they take turns to rule their countries. He doesn't want it, he wants PAP to have perpetual rule over Singapore. Only China's system of government is suitable for us....Only the goverment has the say, and the citizens just follow, and not interested in the politics.
This is the kind of system PAP is adopting now !

There he goes again the threatening game. haven he learn the lesson from the last GE? hey man, it is not working anymore. try harder, 2016 u will loss more GRC.

Give freedom of press and then see how clean PAP is and than we will decide.PAP sold how many power stations,POSB,privatised schools and hospitals. A matter of time HDB like SMRT will be public listed. Take my word