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    Emboldened GOP wants to abolish state income taxes

    OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) — A year after Republicans swept into office across the country, many have trained their sights on what has long been a fiscal conservative's dream: the steep reduction or even outright elimination of state income taxes.

    The idea has circulated among academics and think-tank researchers for years. But it's moving quietly into mainstream political discourse, despite the fact that such sweeping changes would almost certainly mean a total rewiring of tax systems at a time when most states are still struggling in the aftermath of the recession.

    "I think there's going to be more action that way," especially as Republican governors release their budget plans, said Kim Rueben, an expert on state taxation at the Brookings Urban Tax Policy Center.

    Last year, GOP lawmakers in many states quickly went to work on a new conservative agenda: restricting abortion, cracking down on illegal immigration, expanding gun rights and taking aim at public-employee unions.

    Emboldened by that success, the party has launched income tax efforts in Idaho, Kansas, Maine, Missouri, Ohio, Oklahoma and South Carolina. But it's not clear how all those states would make up for the lost revenue, and Rueben said she's not aware of any state in modern history that has eliminated an income tax.

    Nine states already get by without an income tax, mostly by tapping other sources of revenue. Nevada and Florida rely on sales taxes that target the tourism industry. Alaska has taxes on natural resources, and Texas imposes substantial property taxes. The other five states are: New Hampshire, South Dakota, Tennessee, Washington and Wyoming.

    But in the rest of the country, income taxes pay for bedrock government services, including roads and bridges and schools and prison systems.

    In Oklahoma, Republican Gov. Mary Fallin says gradually cutting the top income-tax rate of 5.25 percent will make the state more attractive to businesses, help spur economic growth and ensure Oklahoma is competitive against neighboring states such as Texas. Although the personal income tax does not apply to corporate earnings, supporters say company executives and employees will prefer to live in a state that doesn't tax personal income.

    South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley is pushing this year to consolidate four personal income tax brackets and to phase out corporate income taxes. She promises to seek more tax cuts in the future.

    Missouri has a bill to reduce income taxes and offset the lost revenue by raising the cigarette tax.

    And Maine's GOP-controlled Legislature voted last year to lower the income tax from 8.5 to 7.95 percent, taking 70,000 low-income citizens off the income-tax rolls.

    Idaho Gov. C.L. "Butch" Otter has suggested reducing the individual income tax rate from 7.8 percent to 7.6 percent, the same as the corporate income tax rate, and then gradually lowering both to 7 percent. But business groups have said they would rather get help eliminating the personal property tax businesses pay on their equipment.

    In Ohio, Gov. John Kasich's 2010 campaign included a pledge to phase out the state's personal income tax, though without a timetable for doing so. Thus far, the state's fiscal situation has stymied the governor's efforts to achieve his goal, other than implementing a previously scheduled income tax cut.

    As one way to compensate for the lost revenue, the Oklahoma governor and others have suggested eliminating other kinds of tax breaks and incentives, specifically transferrable tax credits offered to certain businesses. But that would still fall woefully short in Oklahoma, where the income tax provides more than one-third of all state spending.

    Still, 23 Republicans in the Oklahoma House have signed up as sponsors of a measure to abolish the income tax over the next decade without raising any other taxes.

    "Our goal is to transform Oklahoma into the best place to do business, the best place to live, find a quality job, raise a family and retire in all of the United States. Not just better than average, but the very best," state Rep. Leslie Osborn said.

    Lower taxes appeal to many voters, but some wonder how the state could get by if lawmakers abandon a major source of money.

    "I personally would favor paying less taxes, but to me, it's like where are we going to make up the difference?" said Steve Schlegel, a bicycle shop owner in Oklahoma City. "I already feel like government is underfunded at the moment."

    Roger Garner, a letter courier, said he would accept higher property taxes if it meant eliminating the income tax.

    "Get rid of it," Garner said. "Florida doesn't have it. Texas doesn't have it. We don't need it. If something is needed, we can figure out a way to pay for it at the local level."

    Conservatives say the lost revenue will be made up by increased economic activity — more businesses paying corporate taxes and more employees paying property taxes and spending money. But economists warn those predictions are unrealistic.

    Without creating an alternative funding system, "it's clearly irresponsible to propose taking action against the income tax," said Alan Viard, an economist with the American Enterprise Institute, a Washington, D.C.-based conservative think tank.

    Former Oklahoma Treasurer Scott Meacham, a Democrat who helped negotiate a series of small income tax cuts, urged state leaders to be careful tinkering with the state's economy, which is currently enjoying double-digit revenue growth and has one of the 10 lowest unemployment rates in the country.

    "If you look at our state's economy, it's doing very well versus virtually any other state, whether they have a state income tax or not," said Meacham, who is now a member of the board of directors for the State Chamber, an association of Oklahoma business and industry.

    Voters, he added, "ought to be very concerned, especially in an election year, when the politicians are telling them they know what's best for them from an economic standpoint."

    In neighboring Kansas, Republican Gov. Sam Brownback has a sweeping plan to overhaul income taxes that calls for offsetting income tax cuts by canceling a scheduled drop in the sales tax. But it would increase the tax burden for the state's poorest households. And he faces resistance from within his own party over concern that the sales tax increase was supposed to be a temporary fix back in 2010.

    A similar debate is unfolding in Oklahoma, where the plan calls for reducing the income tax from 5.25 percent to 4.75 percent by eliminating the personal exemption for every household member, including children, as well as the child tax credit and earned income tax credit.

    An analysis by the Oklahoma Policy Institute shows those steps would raise taxes for 55 percent of Oklahomans, mostly low-income families and those with children.

    "We have grave doubts about this proposal," said David Blatt, director of the institute. "We see stumbling blocks in every direction. You either decimate state services or shift the burden onto those that can least afford it."

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    Associated Press writers John Hanna in Topeka, Kan.; Seanna Adcox in Columbia, S.C.; David Lieb in Jefferson City, Mo.; and Glenn Adams in Augusta, Maine; Julie Carr Smyth in Columbus, Ohio; and John Miller in Boise, Idaho, contributed to this report.

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    • CE  •  3 months ago
      "GOP lawmakers in many states quickly went to work on a new conservative agenda: restricting abortion, cracking down on illegal immigration, expanding gun rights and taking aim at public-employee unions."- Anyone remember their election chant of- JOBS, JOBS, JOBS?
    • Jason  •  3 months ago
      Let it be a State issue, and let each state decide how they will balance their budget. But if the budget does not work, no going back to the federal government to ask for more to balance it . . .
    • dupre  •  Portland, United States  •  3 months ago
      Here's an idea I'll bet Republicans can get behind: let's abolish ALL taxes. Then pay as you go...schools, roads, bridges, defense, Medicare etc. If you don't want to pay to drive on a road, you don't get to drive on that road. If you don't want to pay a bridge toll, you don't get to cross it. Why pay for the greater good through taxes when you can just pay for what you and your family use? Good idea? Write to Eric Cantor, he'll love it.
      • Bobby 3 months ago
        Toll roads, lie the Oklahoma Turnpike? Dupre is right we need to pay our taxes so more bridges to nowhere can be built and more airports that service one plane a day can be fully staffed.
      • PJH 3 months ago
        We need an emoticon or some keyword for satire and sarcasm. Dupre cuts a fine line here but I'd say his message is that the Republican leaders who came up with this 'eliminate state income tax' crap have their collective heads in a dark, warm, smelly place.
      • Gerald Ragain 3 months ago
        Good I don't want to pay for the military that basically protects multi-nationals over seas profits.
    • Kathleen  •  Clearlake Oaks, United States  •  3 months ago
      Alaska takes $1.84 from the federal government for every $1.00 generated. South Carolina takes $1.35 for every $1.00 generated. Oaklahoma takes $1.38 for every $1.00 generated. California and New Jersey take $.78 and $.61 respectively for every $1.00 generated.GOP states who don't want state taxes are parasitic SOCIALISTS who rely on the federal government to feed their children. Then, they spit of the government that takes care of them. Typical lazy pieces of s**t.
      • A Yahoo! User 3 months ago
        We only get back 78 cents on the dollar... getting screwed here. Not only are out two senators idiots, they're also ineffective. Our Reps too, for that matter.
      • j 3 months ago
        There's a sack of Tea Bag Turds for you
    • JR  •  3 months ago
      Funny how Canada can tax its very wealthiest at 40%, middleclass at 28%, poorest at 0%, have universal healthcare, two years more life expectancy than Americans, affordable education, banking/ investment safeguards, 21st century business/ technology investments, small business tax credits, modern infrastructure, higher environmental standards, higher personal savings rates, a booming housing market, active participation in foreign aid/ defense and only a $500 billion debt. Forbes Magazine recently called it the number one country to do business in. Right wingers call this socialism. Canadians call it a "balanced" approach for creating a long term and more prosperous society. Source: Forbes 10/03/2011
      • James 3 months ago
        Oh you forgot that Canada has strict firearms controls. NO thanks, USA is best.
      • Rob 3 months ago
        And they are bankrupt from medical care look up the GDP for the debt they can't repay it. And when we go on social medical we will be bankrupt in 20 years with no way to pay. Just one more social program that we can't afford
      • KJ 3 months ago
        ......less than half of the population of the US, poeple flocking to thier southern neighbors for any major medical treatments, 3 canoes and a slingshot for thier entire military (they would be overtaken in three days if not for the USA protecting them), bankrupt as a nation due the costs of universal healthcare.......
    • Kevin  •  El Paso, United States  •  3 months ago
      I live in a state with no state income tax - whoopie...except we pay some easily 3-4 times waht aother states pay on realestate, sales tax is 8.25%, fees out the wazoo...it is zero sum game, the revenue still needs to come in, just the name changes. (they are now called fees).
    • Rufus777  •  3 months ago
      The only way to make Oklahoma attractive would be to move it next to an ocean.
      • Jeff 3 months ago
        LMAO
      • RichardM 3 months ago
        I think you mean under the ocean.
      • anonymouse 3 months ago
        oklahomely, texas's prettier sister...
    • GM  •  3 months ago
      When are we as a middle class just going to line these idiots up against a wall. You have to PAY for services such as education, roads, infrastructure etc. Otherwise you become a third world country.
      • DaTruth 3 months ago
        Obviously. But remember, most right wing nuts haven't even left their county and think that's all there is. Take a tour around South America so you can see what happens when wealth is concentrated in the 1%, poor services and poverty everywhere. No wonder many countries in Europe have higher standards of living than here!
      • Larry 3 months ago
        I'm with you, GM.
      • james 3 months ago
        and to think all repubs are rich ,but you say only Democrats travel ,your a fcken idiot, if you travel you were under your parents money, elitist liberals, you should travel with the military, and if you don,t come home good
    • MarkU  •  3 months ago
      All of you people who think the government shouldn't get paid for and claim you are "Pro-America" are full of it. You love to use the roads, you love to have firefirghters, you love police, you LOVE the military, you love the internet, you love the idea that you can fly safely but want no taxes. Nice try. It doesn't work. Go live in the woods and don't bother us who realize that we need government.

      Work on overspending - yes - let's start with that military you love so much. Yes, go after as much corruption as we can but stop taxes all together? Watch your country fall apart.
    • Iam  •  3 months ago
      Instead getting rid of taxes, how about our government learn to spend responsibly?
    • FOX MULDER  •  3 months ago
      I'm a republican and always like to here about fewer taxes but I have to ask....where will the states get the money to run their states. The fed government has shifted much of the burden onto states and now want to take their revenue away. Shifting taxes from one pocket to another doesn't help anyone....the money still has to come from our wages somehow.
    • USA  •  3 months ago
      Obama will definitely win this election since he has the best SuperPAC of all helping him.

      ...the idiots of the GOP.
      .
    • Cactuspantry  •  Springfield, United States  •  3 months ago
      And while were at it, let's prepare to go back to dirt roads, or shall we privatize them and have toll roads?
    • George  •  Atlanta, United States  •  3 months ago
      Income taxes last as long as you work, property taxes last as long as you live
    • Kelly  •  3 months ago
      "Conservatives say if you don't give the rich more money, they will lose their incentive to invest. As for the poor, they tell us they've lost all incentive because we've given them too much money." George Carlin
    • BBeq  •  3 months ago
      I would much rather pay a state/local income tax and get rid of property taxes. Property taxes inherently mean that I will never, ever, ever own my property free and clear - I merely rent it from my government.
    • Desert Ryder  •  Poway, United States  •  3 months ago
      Pay Peter, or pay Paul. The money has to come from somewhere. And you can bet your #$%$ that the middle class will still be paying.
    • InTheMiddleWithABrain  •  3 months ago
      Only true morons would cut income before cutting spending. What color is the sky in these people's worlds? CUT THE SPENDING FIRST! THEN think about cutting taxes!
    • Q  •  Surfside, United States  •  3 months ago
      The GOP...always trying to get a free ride for the rich!
    • jeffrey  •  3 months ago
      sounds like another "eat the poor" tax. regressive taxes are unfair because lower income people spend everything to survive. our leaders are choking on their silver spoons; it gives them brain damage.

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