Who Is Cat Jarman? All About Charles Spencer’s 'Close' Podcast Cohost amid Divorce

Charles Spencer has been spending time with his “Rabbit Hole Detectives” cohost Cat Jarman after his split from his wife, Karen Spencer

<p>Charles Spencer/Instagram</p> Charles Spencer with Cat Jarman in June 2023

Charles Spencer/Instagram

Charles Spencer with Cat Jarman in June 2023

Charles Spencer is reportedly growing closer to his podcast host, Cat Jarman, amid his divorce from his third wife, Karen Spencer.

The 9th Earl Spencer and younger brother of the late Princess Diana announced his split in June 2024 to The Mail on Sunday. The outlet also reported that Spencer was “becoming close to” Jarman, his cohost on his podcast, Rabbit Hole Detectives.

"It is immensely sad," Spencer told the outlet of his divorce. "I just want to devote myself to all my children, and to my grandchildren, and I wish Karen every happiness in the future."

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Now, according to The Mail on Sunday, Spencer is in the “early days” with Jarman, a Norwegian archaeologist.

So who is Cat Jarman? Here’s everything to know about the woman Charles Spencer has been spending time with amid his divorce.

Jarman attended the University of Bristol

<p>Charles Spencer/Instagram</p> Charles Spencer and Cat Jarman after recording the first episode of their podcast in January 2023

Charles Spencer/Instagram

Charles Spencer and Cat Jarman after recording the first episode of their podcast in January 2023

Jarman studied archaeology at the University of Bristol where she received her doctorate degree in 2017, per her bio on her literary agency’s website. Her research focused on the late 9th century Viking Great Army in Derbyshire, England, which she learned about through studying a mass Viking grave site of over 300 people. Her findings later informed the 2019 documentary Britain’s Viking Graveyard and PBS’ The Lost Viking Army.

Now, Jarman is an honorary senior research associate at the Department of Anthropology and Archaeology at the school and the director of the archaeological research unit.

Jarman is an archaeologist and author

<p>Vishal Bhatnagar/NurPhoto via Getty</p> Bio archaeologist Cat Jarman in conversation with William Dalrymple at a session during the Jaipur Literature Festival 2022 , in Jaipur, Rajasthan, India, on Thursday, March 10,2022

Vishal Bhatnagar/NurPhoto via Getty

Bio archaeologist Cat Jarman in conversation with William Dalrymple at a session during the Jaipur Literature Festival 2022 , in Jaipur, Rajasthan, India, on Thursday, March 10,2022

After receiving her doctorate, Jarman continued her archaeological work, specializing in the Viking field, specifically on women and Rapa Nui (Easter Island). She has led excavations at the Anglo-Saxon and Viking site Repton as well as at the newly discovered Viking winter camp in Foremark, per her bio.

“I’m always looking for new stories to tell,” Jarman said of her work in a conversation for the Institute of Irish Studies in Liverpool in November 2023. “I do a lot of broadcasting and podcasts as well.”

In addition to her fieldwork, Jarman has published her findings in two books, 2021’s River Kings: A New History of the Vikings from Scandinavia to the Silk Roads and 2023’s The Bone Chests: Unlocking the Secrets of the Anglo-Saxons.

The former traces the origins of a piece of jewelry that was found in England from India, and the latter tells the story of her research into ten broken wooden chests that contained the bones of royals.

In her talk at the Institute of Irish Studies, she shared that she enjoyed writing the scientific parts of her latest book the most, describing it as her “comfort blanket.”

She is a mother

Jarman has been open about her struggles of being a full-time working mother on Instagram. In a February 2023 post, she wrote about how she took her children on a trip with her as they were on break from school, something she rarely gets to do.

“While their world stops for a week, mine doesn’t. Thankfully, my children are older now and need less supervision, but I still want them to enjoy their time off,” she wrote in the caption alongside photos of her children by the sea. “I travel a lot for work but rarely get to take my children with me so this time, I sneaked in a mini-break by the sea to coincide with a meeting.”

Jarman and Spencer cohost a podcast together

<p>Charles Spencer/Instagram</p> Charles Spencer and Cat Jarman at Althorp in August 2021

Charles Spencer/Instagram

Charles Spencer and Cat Jarman at Althorp in August 2021

Spencer and Jarman launched their podcast, Rabbit Hole Detectives, alongside Reverend Richard Coles in February 2023. Each episode of the podcast chases “the provenance of historical objects both real and metaphorical,” per the description.

“I essentially get the freedom to just research all kinds of fun topics, historical topics, origins of pretty much anything,” Jarman said of the podcast in her Institute of Irish Studies talk.

She and Spencer have been “getting close” amid his divorce

<p>Chris Jackson/Getty</p> Charles Spencer, 9th Earl Spencer and Karen Spencer arrive at the wedding of Prince Harry to Ms Meghan Markle at St George's Chapel, Windsor Castle on May 19, 2018 in Windsor, England

Chris Jackson/Getty

Charles Spencer, 9th Earl Spencer and Karen Spencer arrive at the wedding of Prince Harry to Ms Meghan Markle at St George's Chapel, Windsor Castle on May 19, 2018 in Windsor, England

After Spencer announced his divorce from his estranged wife, Karen, in June 2024, The Mail on Sunday also reported that he was “becoming close to” Jarman and that they "look very happy together but that it is early days."

In addition to their podcast, Jarman has also been helping Spencer unearth a Roman villa in Althorp.

“It was an absolute privilege to work with Charles as the first archaeologist in the grounds of this 500 year old park,” Jarman wrote on Instagram in November 2021 announcing her work on the project. “Can’t wait to share the full results!”

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