Moncton council confirms it will keep RCMP, votes down public consultation

Moncton council ratified a committee vote to stay with the Codiac Regional RCMP. (David Bell/CBC - image credit)
Moncton council ratified a committee vote to stay with the Codiac Regional RCMP. (David Bell/CBC - image credit)

Moncton council on Monday ratified keeping the Codiac Regional RCMP and rejected delaying that decision to consult the public first.

The 6-5 votes came after an hour of at times tense debate that capped a policing review launched in 2021.

The vote tally was the same as when councillors debated the issue Feb. 26 at a committee meeting. Committee votes must be ratified at later council meetings, which led to a resumption of the debate Monday.

Coun. Daniel Bourgeois questioned why fellow council members wouldn't want to hold off on a decision while more information is gathered, including input from the public.

He moved a motion Monday that would have delayed a final decision by holding consultations. He called on councillors to explain their votes. Coun. Marty Kingston — one of six votes — bristled at the questioning.

"I'm a little taken aback that we would all get asked how to explain ourselves on a yay vote," Kingston said, suggesting Bourgeois should re-read the council code of conduct.

It was among a series of tense exchanges among councillors.

Coun. Bryan Butler, one of the five votes, said he still felt council needed more information.

"If six votes vote to say, 'Hey, listen, we don't want no more information, we're satisfied with it,' that's democracy, and I'm happy with that," Butler said. "All I'm saying is, is that we have to give answers to the public."

Coun. Paulette Theriault, one of the six votes, interrupted him as he spoke. They spoke over each other as Butler called out "point of order" repeatedly.

"You know, if you're getting tired, please leave," Butler said to Theriault. "But we're here because this is a very important issue."

Mayor Dawn Arnold spoke, saying Riverview and Dieppe had already voted to stay with Codiac RCMP and were waiting for Moncton's final vote.

Deputy mayor Shawn Crossman and councillors Daniel Bourgeois and Charles Leger were among those who voted against the motion Monday.
Deputy mayor Shawn Crossman and councillors Daniel Bourgeois and Charles Leger were among those who voted against the motion Monday.

Deputy Mayor Shawn Crossman, councillors Daniel Bourgeois and Charles Leger shown voting on the issue during the February committee meeting. (Shane Magee/CBC)

The mayor and councillors Theriault, Kingston, Susan Edgett, Monique LeBlanc and Dave Steeves were the six votes to continue with the RCMP without consultations.

Deputy Mayor Shawn Crossman and councillors Bourgeois, Charles Léger, Butler and Paul Richard voted the other way.

Councillors unanimously voted to meet with RCMP leaders, the Codiac Regional Policing Authority board and councils from Dieppe and Riverview to discuss how to improve public safety and implement the policing study recommendations.

The details of when and where that meeting will take place have yet to be determined.

The study by consulting firm Perivale + Taylor released last fall recommended improved data collection, a community feedback process on policing issues and governance improvements at the policing authority.

Policing authority chair Don Moore told reporters the board will work with the municipalities to implement the recommendations this year.

The study was launched by a council vote in 2021 to review policing services in light of rising policing costs, crime and concerns about local control.

The study estimated staying with the RCMP could save $132 million over 15 years compared to launching a new municipal force.

Pat Bouchard, Atlantic director with the National Police Federation, the RCMP union, spoke at Monday's meeting and thanked councillors who voted in favour of maintaining the RCMP.