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    Starhub faces fuming WoW gamers

    Starhub is the target of furious gamers. (Yahoo! photo)Starhub is the target of furious gamers. (Yahoo! photo)















    Following the 4.0.6 patch, thousands of Starhub subscribers are fuming with rage after experiencing severe lag spikes that make World of Warcraft (WoW) unplayable, though many of them have the Maxonline Ultimate broadband connection.

    Some gamers have even gone to the extent of permanently quitting the game or terminating their broadband contract and switching to SingNet.

    According to gaming experts, the problem lies with Starhub rather than Blizzard because the same patch is distributed to players all over the world and it should affect all ISPs or region if it had any issues.

    How this problem arose could be due to the certain form of packet StarHub uses, their prioritisation of data flow, or even many simultaneous BitTorrent downloads on the same network.

    Besides Starhub, a minority of SingNet subscribers reported a similar problem, but this was soon fixed by technical engineers.

    A local WOW gamer nicknamed "Sodaprincess" wrote on a forum that she called Starhub every day for one week and the response she got was "everything was perfectly fine".

    Aaron Tiong, 38, business development manager, thinks Starhub should work out a solution with Blizzard and solve the problem instead of giving subscribers the run-around, asking them to do trace routes.

    "The community is providing you with information to resolve the issues, and instead of taking the problem off your customers' hands and dealing with Blizzard directly, you give us reason to perceive it as a blame game," he said.

    "Effectively, you are making it our problem although we are paying you for the service. One sentence : BAD PR management, forgetting that customers come first," Aaron proclaimed in an enraged tone.

    A possible workaround for gamers to evade the lag issue is to purchase a VPN (Virtual Private Network) in a country in Europe or North America. This similar solution is also frequently used by Chinese Internet users who want to surf sites such as Facebook or YouTube, which are blocked by the government.

    Meanwhile, Starhub's biggest competitor SingTel was recently subjected to a virtual tongue-lashing by frustrated football fans for its aggressive sales tactics, as they had to fork out an extra $3.15 to watch the Carling Cup Final between Arsenal and Birmingham, even though they have subscribed to the English Premier League and Champions League channels.

    Football fans are not getting their fix from SingTel Mio.Football fans are not getting their fix from SingTel Mio.






    The writer is a 16-year-old technology blogger who loves social media and gadgets. He is also Singapore's No. 1 Twitter user, with 180,000 followers.

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    74 comments

    • Preroll  •  11 months ago
      ha ha, main ISPs are the same everywhere. They all skimp on the number of staff for customer service. Nobody wants a career to be a customer service officer, who wants to listen to complaints all day? They are so confident you don't have a choice. Just don't trust them.
      • Jeff 11 months ago
        You've never used the Net in Japan or Korea, have you? Or even Australia?

        We've got a fantastic 1989-era Internet capacity. Too bad for us that it's 2011, and we're going to keep paying and paying until at least 2016.
    • sgkaki  •  1 year 2 months ago
      Payer 1: Hey guys wait up the tank is lagging
      Player 2: Hell yeah ! Cuz he's a Singaporean that's why his ISP sucks big time !
      Player 3: Hell yeah ! Lets boot the tank !
      Server : Tank has disconnected
      After the instance is over .
      Server : Tank is online
      • Chris 1 year 2 months ago
        Lol - i love it :P
      • Michael Albert 10 months ago
        Please read this gigi please , at first thanks god because i found you , look i have a work mail from sony , it had been sent to your account gigi123@yahoo.com just send me the reset code or ill lose everything please help !
    • Dav  •  1 year 2 months ago
      i doubt its the patch problem.... i realise one thing, my connection can be good in the weekday morning n afternoon and night sometime.. But when friday, sat n sun come, my latency will go up to 3k-4k.. quite frustrating. call them and they keep saying their side is no problem...of course is no problem coz all they check is connecting to local website... Seriously, if i just surf local website, y would i bother to subscribe to STARHUB, pls starhub staff, i knw u r reading this. wake up your idea ok..... go do something about it.....

      and they always like to blame your router or your cable point;.. frequent disconnection..... they ask me to do direct connection to modem, i tried, disconnection still occur, then ask me to switch to living room cable point... THT IS SERIOUSLY BAD AND BRAINLESS SUGGESTION. those cable point are behind cabinets, how the hell am i suppose to shift it out just for u to test... and also the points previously are ok, y only now got problem....

      I sometime just wonder why their staff are so brainless in giving answer.
      • vincent 1 year 2 months ago
        AGREED with u dav they reply me saying their connection is fine and it might be due to my cable problem and asked me to make an appointment for the technician to check it out.And when the technician came down he told me that there is no problem with my cables and THEN requires me to pay a transportation fee as there is no problem..and he advice me if i think the cable is faulty i can request to relay the cables and wat u know S$2000!!! They fking expect me to keep using starhub and pay $2k to change the cable.thats y i went to sign up another singtel line which is slightly better in connection but have lags.I rather throw my connection there and use others rather than to let them scam me of 2k to replace my cable.
      • Andrew Ong 1 year 2 months ago
        customer expectation...
      • Jeff 11 months ago
        @Andrew Ong, as a customer I expect two things only. Competent, consistent delivery of the service or product I'm paying for, and accurate billing for that payment. These Soviet-style Government-linked corporations have absolutely no incentive whatever to do either. They can bloviate all the papaganda they want; if they don't deliver on it, their CEO (who's more than likely an MP or ex-MP as well) won't lose any sleep — or any money.
    • Wyw Wyw  •  1 year 2 months ago
      @#$%. it really happens after patch 4.06. my latency shot up from 300plus ms to 1k plus ms. i called starhub regarding about this, and they said the connection is fine, which makes me doubt myself that i have to upgrade my core i7 PC and GTX295 graphic card. so, it is really their problem lor... got to call them about this again later...!! humph!
      • HPN2 1 year 2 months ago
        well oe thing is for sure : internet connection has nothing to do with core i7 and GTX295.
      • Wyw Wyw 1 year 2 months ago
        it's because Starhub said there is nothing wrong with the connection and probably it is my PC that is creating the problem.
      • Kelvin Tan 1 year 2 months ago
        Alot of my guildies use www.highpingbuster.com, esp Starhub, at least it's playable during peak period.
    • vincent  •  1 year 2 months ago
      Seems like alot of ppl have/had problems with singapore's ISP i truly hope this problem will light up those managements no matter they are from Singtel/Starhub/M1.In Addition i think IDA and CASE should reflect on themselves too on not putting in more effort to ask the ISPs to go more transparent or enfource more rules and fines.I have been to many countries and so far its sad to say Singapore is once of the worst country with internet...Very Very bad name for tourist too...My friend recently came Singapore for a tour and the first thing he complained to me is our internet in singapore SUX!!
      • gonggong 1 year 2 months ago
        Yeah, this term "broadband" used by Singapore Telcos is a joke.

        Maybe they have assumed, since the dialup days, that anything >56kps is broadband.
      • Jeff 11 months ago
        It's that "Swiss standard of living" thing, except that the Swiss have a competitive, competent Internet market.

        Well, we might be allowed to do something about it in 2016…
    • Joker  •  1 year 2 months ago
      Use calculator to check your bills carefully. Some bills got mistakes.
    • Ray K  •  1 year 2 months ago
      I don't think IDA should fine starhub, or indeed any other ISP,l what they should do is force the telco to rebate the users, either by providing a period of free internet, or discount on its service . Why should a fine go to the government when the "victims" were the consumers?
    • san  •  1 year 2 months ago
      Singtel and M1 is together in the same company.
      Starhub borrow the line from Singtel.
      So tell me why it won't be lag?
    • Brain  •  1 year 2 months ago
      You are all MAD if you think Starhub cares about gamers. Incompetent management only cares only about profit and bonus. IDA doesn't look like they want to do anything concrete about the Starhub's bad business practices over the course of the past 6 months. But why should they? They are mostly folks like Starhub who just want to collect their money and go home at 5pm sharp everyday.
    • Ultimate  •  1 year 2 months ago
      Poor Customer service and PR management. I had a bad experience with Starhub in 3 months time Starhub overcharge my phone bill for 2 times. The worst part is when i try to call 1633 customer care line for 4 times, everytimes it took more than 25min for them to answer my call. Wasting your customer time. And Lastly when ask them to refund the overcharge bill portion it always took them 2 month before they refund it, this is not fair to customer. when the bill is due it deduct from our account on time through GIRO. IDA should award them 5 STAR BAD SERVICE.
    • Chris  •  1 year 2 months ago
      OK - here goes

      My first post - i don't usualy bother posting anything (i usualy just read with amusement)

      Firstly - We pay good money for so called "service" Perosnally i pay $100 a month for the 10+Mbs for obvious gaming reasons.

      Wow in particular - it is obvious that i am not the only person with the problems.

      I have contacted Starhub and told them i have 1 year left. That if the problem isnt rectified by the end of the month I will not be paying the penalty - as i have not recived the so called service i should be recieving.

      I think if everyone does this - they should definetly make an active effort.

      Apparently after speaking with them 10 min ago they are aware of the problem and they are working to resolve.

      Either way - I looked at M1 it seems they are allot better and better value for money unfortunatly stuck with Starhub - well at least till the end of the month.

      If they resolve i will honour the contract if they dont resolve by end of the month bye bye starhub helloo M1.

      tx for listening
    • true sin  •  1 year 2 months ago
      I have juz sign up wif starhub rival coz starhub customer service persons (telephone or counter in vivo city) are very arogant & impatient. They are self pride that to the extend to said " don you put words in my mouth" When my contract is up, it will be bye bye to Starhub for me....
    • TheR  •  1 year 2 months ago
      Starhub is a sick joke ..allowed by incompetent authorities to even function - its a goverment created headache that just wont go away.

      they say ...internet connection is "from" not the actual stated. so as long as you are connected...they have fulfilled their obligations.

      Do you know u cant call SCV - in singapore - alltech help goes through someonein Phillipines and i assure u they are useless and build your frustration to a point that you will just give up.

      Warning - if u renew your hp contract - all services are reconnected - including gsp services and u may tarvel overseas and when you are back get a hughe bill - seems u have to disconnect this everytime you renew your contract.

      Nothing will change until the goverment changes - and there is some accountability.

      SCV is a rip off....its up to us to do somthing about it IDA is deaf on these matters..

      looks like we want a 1st class goverment with a less than 3rd class service
    • Joker  •  1 year 2 months ago
      Dear IDA and CASE,

      Please pass a law to ban contracts for Telcos, esp. 24-mth contract. Everyone being locked-in for 24 months. Customer Service horrible also cannot terminate.......... :(

      No way out for consumers??????!!!!! Win-win for Telcos, Die-die for customers? Not fair!

      Customer service no good, should be able to terminate anytime!
    • A Yahoo! User  •  1 year 2 months ago
      This is what Starhub's amazing tech people told me might be contributing to my lag in WoW for the past 3 weeks:

      1) disconnect router, use cable directly
      2) Try to see if you have the same problem on a friend's PC
      3) Try a laptop connection
      4) change graphic card
      5) maybe your PC is too slow
      6) reformat your HDD

      I just signed up with M1 fBB, once it's connected, bye bye Starhub!
    • Russellchin  •  1 year 2 months ago
      broadband states the speed of its modem: 100mb/s
      while i'm downloading a mp3 file from sogou (new divide, linkin park, song not bad =D),
      download speed: 3kb/s

      some other times: 100kb/s, 1mb/s, 20mb/s, 2mb/s

      their internet is like a steep hill. sometimes high sometimes low.
    • Joker  •  1 year 2 months ago
      Dear IDA,

      Can help us to fire the Telcos...... Why Caller-Number Display has to be S$5 per month? Nothing less? CID is the by-product of the telephone system. It takes almost ZERO COST to produce the Caller-Number-Display on our mobiles.

      Why all the Telcos are charging consumers S$5 additional for Caller-ID??? We don't want to display Caller-ID also need to pay another S$5? Total S$10. Plus 7% GST.

      IDA, please fire them for us!
    • Talk78  •  1 year 2 months ago
      star hub sucks? and i thought of switching over..My singnet boardband will auto DC countless time from 8pm to 11pm...
    • Daniel Rex  •  1 year 2 months ago
      Customer service is extremely bad and audaciously rude...I'm definitely gonna axe them after my contract is up... Always experiencing high volume calls and i have to wait like 20 mins even at 5 a.m in the morning? WTH!!!
    • Donovan pok  •  1 year 2 months ago
      Why only WoW gamers? shouldn't they put ALL starhub internet users? I experienced lags since monday

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