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    Can Singapore wean itself off cheap foreign labour?

    Banyan Tree executive chairman Ho Kwon Ping has been voted as the most influential thinker in Yahoo!'s Singapore 9 project. (Yahoo!)Banyan Tree executive chairman Ho Kwon Ping has been voted as the most influential thinker in Yahoo!'s Singapore …

    Singapore has room to wean itself away from reliance on cheap foreign labour in construction and other industries, top local businessman and hotel magnate Ho Kwon Ping said in an interview on Tuesday.

    "I think we have a dichotomous society," said Ho, who was recently voted as the country's most influential thinker in Yahoo!'s Singapore 9 project. "In the high knowledge-based industries we are competitive, but in the local industries such as construction, skill levels and productivity are quite low."

    However, the founder and executive chairman of Singapore-listed Banyan Tree Holdings was also quick to caution against Singaporeans turning "xenophobic".

    Ho was speaking to Yahoo! Singapore about his reactions to the National Day Rally Speech of Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong, freedom of speech in the Internet age and the competitiveness of Singaporeans.

    Renowned for launching the Banyan Tree global chain of luxury spa and hotel resorts from a single troubled hotel in Phuket that his family built, and having once owned a construction business, the 59-year old understands the construction industry very well.

    Ho noted that in Australia, a builder gets a salary several times the salary of a construction worker in Singapore, although both countries have about the same per capita income.

    "We've had construction development experience in Australia, New Zealand, Thailand and so on. When we built our hotel in New Zealand we were shocked because the number of workers we engaged there was about 10 percent of what we would get in Thailand -- because they are well trained," he said.

    "We haven't bitten the bullet here. We are still addicted to cheap foreign labour in industries like construction," Ho pointed out.

    "Our low-skilled workers are at a disadvantage today because salaries are quite low with the influx of foreign workers, so I think we need to ratchet that up a bit," he added.

    He recalled that in the 1980s, Singapore was a low-cost, low-wage economy, but the government then pushed wages up high. That prompted many low-cost industries to leave the country, but the policy also attracted younger Singaporeans to join higher technology industries.

    Now, the phenomenon of several thousand semi-skilled young women from Malaysia working at electronics factories in Singapore is gone, and, as PM Lee cited in his speech, the city-state can now produce the machines that manufacture semi-conductors, Ho noted.

    The executive stressed that he is not saying Singapore should close off the construction industry to foreigners but that the costs and skill levels for workers should be raised.

    "If you are a foreigner, if you have XYZ skills, you should be allowed in, but we should phase out the unskilled labourers, largely from South Asia," he said. "There will be transitional pains and should be phased over even a decade, but we must have targets so that our firms can prepare themselves."

    Reactions to PM Lee's speech

    Touching on the government's plan to raise the bar for employment passes, Ho said the move would bring temporary relief to Singaporeans, but the longer-term answer would lie in making citizens more competitive and productive.

    "I think the policies announced in the National Day Rally are very responsible because they have responded to the sentiments on the ground -- and if they did not it would have smacked of arrogance --  but at the same time they did not give in to populism," said Ho, who is married to former Nominated Member of Parliament and prominent businesswoman Claire Chiang.

    Regarding the 'Singaporeans-first' policies unveiled in housing and education, he noted that the PM has had to tread a very thin line on the "explosive" issue of foreigners, which many political leaders around the world have to grapple with.

    "Any serious person will tell you that the advanced economies are not going to be able to grow or be able to get the talent they need if they are going to listen to the purely populist notion of protecting your people only," he said.

    "On the other hand, you have to be aware of populist sentiments and make people feel their concerns are being addressed," he pointed out.

    He agreed that issues such as overcrowding on buses and trains need to be tackled and corresponding policies rectified.

    Nevertheless, Ho, who is also chairman of Singapore Management University, the country's third national university, warned that it is "very necessary for Singaporeans not to be xenophobic".

    His view is that diversity in itself is a plus point and benefits everyone, including the majority. "If SMU students did not have the benefit of foreign students, they would be such a narrow bunch of people," he said.

    In his NDR speech, PM Lee said that places for Singaporeans students at local universities would be raised by 2,000, the equivalent of another SMU, by 2015.

    There is currently a 20 per cent quota of foreign students at the national universities, but some members of the public have questioned why some Singaporeans students should be turned away at all to allow foreign students in.

    Ho acknowledges that there is a legitimate economic argument to putting a cap on the number of foreign students at the universities. "Our schools, our universities are heavily subsidised, so it's justifiable that taxpayers' money should go towards the children of taxpayers," he said.

    Yet, he believes that there is a qualitative argument for retaining a significant number of foreign students at the schools. "A society that does not welcome diversity is going to be a very brittle society," he said.

    Beyond the policies, Ho observed that the PM was trying hard to connect with young people.

    "You can see from the examples he gave, the little things like the young guy who took photos of the flats, the Bowen cafe. I think he was trying to tell people that there are many ways for them to take initiative, to have a sense of ownership in Singapore," he said.

    "Young people nowadays in this generation won't find fulfillment just by joining the civil service and feeling empowered by writing policies that will affect millions of people. They want to do things that affect people's lives directly, and PM has tapped into that sentiment" he said.

    Freedom of speech

    As a former student activist and journalist who had been detained under the Internal Security Act in 1977 for articles written for the Far Eastern Economic Review, Ho also acknowledges that the Internet has allowed much wider access to information than ever before.

    "No one controls knowledge any more," he said. "But technology by itself is apolitical. It is simply an enabler of processes, so I think we have to see the Internet in that perspective." He cited how Blackberry phones were equally used by dissidents in the Middle East as well as by criminal gangs in London.

    While social media led to the Arab spring revolution, the lack of control of knowledge also has its negative side, he pointed out.

    "No government in the world, including China, can control knowledge, but does it mean it is going to lead to a flowering of democracy or that the Internet is only good for the world? That's not the case. Paedophilia has risen enormously now because paedophiles all over the world are now connected," he said.

    Asked whether it would now be futile for governments to control the Internet or the flow of information therein, he said he agreed with what former Foreign Affairs Minister George Yeo once said: "That even if we know it is futile, it is important for a society to come together and decide what we accept and don't accept."

    "I think it is important to have values in the society and these values should be expressed through positive encouragement as well as negative sanctions," he argued.

    "For student groups you shouldn't cut down on them, but for paedophelia groups you should," he said.

    In Europe, he noted, it is completely normal to have anti-semitism outlawed because they had gone through the Holocaust, but other than that, religious hatred is tolerated in society.

    "We have to examine our own history, where we're coming from. Given our own history, the freedom of expression about religion clearly needs to be controlled," he said.

    "If you don't have negative sanctions, you don't create the boundaries for society nor for young people when they grow up about what is acceptable or not acceptable," he said. "But these negative sanctions should not be simply dictated by a government; they should reflect the values of the whole society and be widely debated."

     

    224 comments

    • ricardo  •  9 months ago
      Building a house in Oz is cheaper than SG not only cos the price of the land. The building worker in Oz is highly skilled and with his use of power tools, he has the productivity of perhaps 10-20 unskilled Bangladeshis. He is proud to call himself a builder, bricklayer or electrician and will earn as about as much as a teacher. Singapore can change its skill base very quickly and with it the favoured building methods. It's called National Service.
    • Girl  •  9 months ago
      Well said.
    • AngryMan  •  9 months ago
      What do you think the avearge minimum person salary to live by in Singapore?
    • Dragon ball  •  9 months ago
      4 year ago when my father had stroke. First thing the TTS hospital doctor ask who is going to pay for the operation and the nurse will ask one of us to sign the bill Document first? 2nd the doctor need about 12 liter of blood to operate my father and ask all our brother and sister to give blood first before he can operate my father. BUT when a FT is alone in Singapore and had a bad accident and need 12 liter of blood, Do the doctor ask who is going to pay the hospital bill , and worst who blood does this FT use for his operation, is it FT blood ? or Singaporean blood????????????????????
    • billy  •  9 months ago
      Singaporean first, which boss think this way? pls let me know. The bosses in Singapore dont take order from government, so he said Singaporean first, is pointless. Law should be every 2 foreign workers' levy will give to 55 years old citizen to help them because they taken their job
      • Kelvin 9 months ago
        Singporean have all the talents and values. We deserve to be treated equally!!!
    • James  •  9 months ago
      2 days ago, I went to a well known Clementi Bookstore and I found a book which I want. I ask a retail staff whether how many % discount if I have the membership card (which it's not with me at that moment). He does not even seem to understand basic English that I'm trying converse with him. I suppose his a PRC by his look, He looked perplexed and requested that I speak in Mandarin instead. That's fine with me, after I asked again in Mandarin, he also don't even know how much discount I can get for this book. Instead he asked me to check with the Cashier for an answer. Dame waste of my bloody time. Next I try to find CD marker and decided to look for other staff. Found someone who looked local but she was busy at that time and requested me to look for her colleague which handles the stationeries area. Alamak! another PRC, however this time round is better because she understand CD marker. BUT, she picked out a few markers but mostly are perm or board type. She seem to have trouble understanding the label . She give up and told me to look at this area and check each marker by myself. What a waste of my time again. Thing are different at Eastpoint branch, when I try to look for certain book titles, the local or Malaysian staff are superbly swift and fast. Therefore, if you don't want to waste precious time,please look for local or Malaysian service staff.
    • That's life  •  9 months ago
      There are some countries we can learnt from UK .

      During my times I was handling the same Project for NEC .

      My customer from UK Rosti Plastic sourcing cheap Plastic Molds from Singapore.

      They are running the same Model Handphone casing in UK plants .
      But my customer in Singapore Moulder alos warded the same Project and running at the cycle
      time of 28 sec per stroke.

      The Rosti Plastic running at 14 sec per stroke in UK.
      He told me I do not need to relocate to China still be competitive because we know how to design
      it better and faster.

      During the recession in1997 it hit Singapore but our Plastic Molder not affected at all instead
      we growth during this stage ( We secure the Nokia Project by winning over the Finland and
      Holland supplier which they set a assy plant in Hong Kong, Shenshen , Shanghia and Japan.

      2 plane flying daily from Finland to Hong Kong and Shanghai to support their production
      lines as Germany supplier and Japanese control them.

      I work out the proposal to transfer the Project to Singapore using the freight cost directly
      from Singapore to HK and Shanghai and Japan can save them million dollars per years.

      They accepted the proposal and kick started this Porject with Tritech later knows as TTL,
      SEB Engineering and Li Lix to take over Finland ,Germany supplier base.

      We manufacturing in Singapore during the most different times in 1997 and using Fedex
      2 plane daily to support Hong Kong and Shanghai plants operation.
      Sale from zero handphone to 600,000,000 in record supplies via Singapore.

      Freight cost is the most critical and raw material cost.
      Not cheaper labor .

      Today I can beat any China Supplier even I produce it in Singapore and Malaysia.
      Use your brain..... valued engineerring , leverages

      Direct labor 6% of the pie
      Indirect labor 6 % of the pie .How much can you reduce the from here?

      Improved the design the machines better from the manufacturer .

      Copy and Innovate you will make it...!!

      Thinking of reduce labor cost .... No prospect at all as no creative ..everyone doing it.
      Cheap FT taking high risk lose more money for their in experience mistake and they
      learnt and came back be your most keen competitor one day...

      We are still competitive.
    • ong w  •  9 months ago
      There was a very interesting part is yesterday home news which broadcast in Mediacorp news. Which show Lim Swee Say visiting a local SME factory, the news was about how MOM and Union help the low wages workers to increase their salary through training and the funny part is that it show a FW from PRC (you can see her face) there doing the work. So what is the hell happened??? Can I ask Mr Lim Swee Say pls???
    • two cents  •  9 months ago
      I once went to Isetan to look for something at the Origins counter. The salesperson there was a china girl who couldn't speak a word of English to save herself. She couldn't even promote items to me. On the contrary the local Malay girl at Robinsons was so good and persuasive and recommended all kinds of items for my skin. I ended up buying quite a lot of things from her but I didn't buy anything from the china girl. So companies, please spend a bit more and employ our own locals as in the end you will gain from having more business than if you were to employ a foreigner who can't explain anything to the customer. You will then lose a sale.
    • Shoen  •  9 months ago
      I told my PAP MP that it took 6 foreign workers to put up one set of railings during the IUP - 2 to put up the formwork, 2 chinaman to pour concrete, 2 bangla to hack away that concrete to put in the railing and then the original 2 chinaman to come abck and pour the concrete again.

      The same inefficiency happens when they build a new footpath - one team will pour concrete, then have another to hack away, the third to come and pour the concrete again!

      Now you know why we need some many foreign workers in our local construction industry! And the MP's reaction - "Oh, I see." So I voted for the opposition.
    • Ted bundy Ted  •  9 months ago
      when u said foreign worker u dont say cheap..they come here to earn money and to make singapore a better future instead of branding them cheap foreign labours....what do u think singapore will be if there are no foreigners working in singapore??
    • .  •  9 months ago
      Yes we CERTAINLY CAN.

      look at the filth n dirt brought in. SINGAPOREAN by far perform with dedication and class,
      and what should be wiped out is not to exploit our own kind, as i can see such stupid handling of Indian labor that at work sites like lift upgrading, they are so pampered to have their full lunch at 10.30 am and are seen giggling at work sites. Singapore is a good place but why are they so happy to the extent that they are not working but giggling???!! They used to be caught napping away when given a broom to sweep the roads.

      Just go see the Aged auntie who is the mall cleaner of GV10 that she sweeps up all the roadside debris when the Indian labourers of who are badly or minimally deployed by their government contractors dont lift a finger to it.
      The government contractors quote me $1500 for what my neighbour got from a private contractor a wiring job at $700 !!! Helll...these 3rd world labour are paid to do nothing
      while the government contractors go on charging HDB and Town Council exhorbitant rates!

      Singaporeans are quality workers who do an honest day job...without any need for their local employers exploitation when thay always act cowardly towards thugs and ruffians and filth from the third world or those who pretend to communicate badly in order not to work, like the Filipino service staff will surely tell u everything is out of stock and they dont know when stocks will be replenish..because they then talk bad and back at the local management that hire them for their lack of information..as if!
    • Dragon ball  •  9 months ago
      4 year ago when my father had stroke. First thing the TTS hospital doctor ask who is going to pay for the operation and the nurse will ask one of us to sign the bill Document first? 2nd the doctor need about 12 liter of blood to operate my father and ask all our brother and sister to give blood first before he can operate my father. BUT when a FT is alone in Singapore and had a bad accident and need 12 liter of blood, Do the doctor ask who is going to pay the hospital bill , and worst who blood does this FT use for his operation, is it FT blood ? or Singaporean blood????????????????????
    • billy  •  9 months ago
      Levy should go to community building fund, charity and other funds that benefit singapore, not the ministry profit, and end up higher bonus for the ministers. should get a non profit organization accounted for the levy use it on true singaporean maybe build a market and lower the rent of the hawkers, than everyone benefit for lower cost of food and drinks
    • Jane  •  9 months ago
      Thanks to the current ruling party's policies that few wants to take up jobs in construction, general cleaning etc etc...10 year compulsory education with many thereafter aspiring for a diploma or university degree...even with very good pay, i doubt few will take up jobs in construction as a labourer or as a cleaner. after years of our gahmen telling us we have to upgrade ourselves and move towards higher end type of work (which are less labour intensive), the gahmen expects them to be a labourer or cleaner? it is also very frequently reported in the papers inspiring stories of those who had done badly earlier in life and had gone on to be bosses of their own...now someone wants to reverse that mentality...isn't that a little difficult? in this age, many singaporeans have become very comfortable and are not willing to take up jobs which they perceive to be dangerous eg construction as well as jobs which they perceive to be below their social status, and alot of them would just like to remain jobless rather than go get a job!

      Back in our grandparents' and parents' time, any job that allow them to bring bread to the table is good enough...i don't expect to see that attitude nowadays ...not anymore
    • Adrian  •  9 months ago
      Let's finalize,

      One very thrifty person's contribution to Singapore, say $500 monthly(very reserve).
      He will be directly spending $6000 in a single year, thats his damage alone.

      Now if i can have another extra one million people coming to spend $500 a month.

      That's adding $6'000'000'000 to the economy of Singapore in a year. 6 billion SGD. (remember,very reserve calculation)

      So, our ruling party is obviously blind to any other objections or arguements, if you use very skillful workers vs. foreign trash, the equation or ratio may be 1 : 3. This will be easily losing 3 billion sgd a year. I'm very sure they will not back-down on any of their policies once implimented. They planned well and long to ensure growth, neglecting all others on the way there.

      In order to attract bigger investors in any industry, these foreign trash are very useful tools too, think harder.


      Since they only care about growth, what's our verdict then? I will vote them off and out in 2016, we must be united, period.
    • Tan Choon Hong  •  9 months ago
      Insightful comment on the low pay status in the construction sector due to the influx of foreign workers.

      There is no shortage of Singaporean workers prepared to work in the field. There is a shortage of Singaporean workers willing to be exploited.
    • Manoj J  •  9 months ago
      curb foreign unskilled workers?Y?Who is born educated?When a poor man from a distant country comes to work in our construction sites to make a living and save so he can provide a better life and pay for a better education for his kids back home.. we want to curb his entry? But a skilled foreign talent who competes for the higher paying jobs here we allow?I dun get it.
    • Poor cousin of the LEE  •  9 months ago
      Good point on increasing productivity. That Minister Lim Sway Sway should comment on this.. Not focusing enough to push productivity up. Not spending time on the ground to understand about productivity.
    • Cindy Teo  •  9 months ago
      No comment. But I think we cannot wait for the bite in the construction industry because what he said is a time for such a bite that will never come and the entire country gets worse.

      We need to increase the foreign workers levy by 3 times so that we can get those
      older singaporean workers back to work. I spotted several times in the market that
      some poor singaporeans just bargaining or looking for cheaper foods. I feel so sad
      about the situation. Foreigners scolding local workers. Freigners complain singaporeans
      as troublesome and full of complains. This society has got big problems that are glowing
      and becoming a disaster later.

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