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    PM on pay debate: Can we afford to risk the future of S’pore?

    Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong expressed concern over the ability of Singapore to get the best talent for government amid the debate on ministerial pay.

    “We need to pay whatever is necessary to assemble the best team in Singapore,” Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong said in Parliament on Tuesday, about two weeks after a panel recommended deep cuts to ministerial salaries.

    Lee emphasized that a good pay structure is essential to secure Singapore’s long-term future. “If you have the wrong system of pay, you will have the wrong team,” he added.

    Weighing in on the debate of ministerial pay, Lee affirmed the need to peg ministerial pay to private sectors in Singapore to attract the “most promising ones” as he acknowledged that the transition from private sector to politics is not easy and comes with little assurance.

    “Paying people correctly is part of the answer,” Lee said on how to get the best people to form the Cabinet. “It is not a bidding war where if you get the cheapest [minister], you will get the best value for money,” he added.

    “Can we afford to risk our country’s future on the assumption that salaries do not matter?” he asked.

    He stressed that while it was possible to get good talent such as Worker's Party MP Chen Show Mao -- who sacrificed a lucrative legal career to jump into political service -- it was not about finding one or two of such candidates, but about finding an entire team who could make up a future Cabinet. 

    PM Lee also said ideally these candidates had to be in their prime years so they could be "vigorous" and "young enough" to form the leadership for many years to come, rather than getting people to switch careers to go into politics after they had made enough money in the private sector.

    In his speech, Lee also addressed the public’s concerns over ministerial pay. He noted that some have reservations about the pay’s formula, some are unhappy that ministers are deciding their own pay and others are worried that ministers will lose the ethos of placing Singaporeans’ welfare first.

    But Lee stressed that the government’s approach has worked well for Singapore as the People’s Action Party has governed effectively, cleanly and fairly, and have improved the lives of Singaporeans.

    Lee dismissed the idea of Singapore following the example of other countries as “[Singapore’s] survival and success is always based on our ability to be extraordinary. No one owes us a living if we run into trouble”.

    On the issue of accountability, PM Lee stressed that Singaporeans cannot expect ministers to never make mistakes. But when they do, he said, they must acknowledge their mistakes and fix things.

    However, "negligent or dishonest ministers will be sacked", said PM Lee, while ministers who do not perform well despite their best efforts "will be moved to a less demanding portfolio, or, if necessary, phased out discreetly."

    Lee has indicated that the government has accepted the committee’s recommendations and he hoped that the public would accept it, too.

    He acknowledged, however, that he does not expect his speech to be the last word on ministerial salaries.

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    • lim ronnie  •  Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia  •  4 months ago
      The high pay is to politician who are running the country and not to professional and does not concern having ability or not to get talent....as leaders need to sacrificed to serves it country and people.
    • Pppj  •  4 months ago
      Clearly, we cannot risk the future of singaporeans under the leadership of PAP. We lost trust in them.
      • Karl 4 months ago
        Yes, Singaporeans are known to be the least risk takers all these 40+ years but today we singaporeans shall take our biggest risk to get rid of each and every traitors that stole not only our entire CPF life savings, they are now getting rid of each and every local sinkies by replacing us all with their newly created citizenship.
      • Desmond 4 months ago
        Clearly, Singapore cannot be trusted in YOUR hands.
      • Alain 4 months ago
        We having being paying so high, but the team that is being assembler does not meet up to standard for so long time, so high pay definitely can't assmebler good talent but money minded politician only.
    • Justice Pao 包青天  •  Singapore, Central Singapore  •  4 months ago
      All our ministries (Finance, Education, Transport.........) have their own sets of capable officers and administrator drawing good salary running the day to day operation. Our Minister are put there to run the operation on the advice of these capable officers and administrator. Our Minister are just like our President for our President have to take advice from his Adviser before doing or saying anything in public. Our Minister should not be pay more than these officers and administrator just like our President do not get paid more than our PM. If you agree, give me a thumb up.
      • PH 4 months ago
        The Ministers do one more thing .. they teach us English .. like the difference between "ponding" and "flooding". Expensive lesson, siah
      • H. S 4 months ago
        Vivian BALA! ..... Geezz... his English sounds so Indian.
      • Ku Pa 4 months ago
        the ministers are like rubber stamp like the President right?.
    • Choo  •  4 months ago
      LHL IN GE 2011, YOU HAVE SAID SORRY TO US.
      PLEASE DONT CORNERED US TO MAKE YOU CRY IN GE 2016.
      THIS TIME IS FOR REAL.
      WE SINGAPOREAN HAVE ENOUGH OF PAP...!
      • NB Chau Hai 4 months ago
        Enough of PAP.....2016 is the end.
      • Charles Yong L P 4 months ago
        We will make PAP bow to us this time !
      • GEN Y VOTE POWER 4 months ago
        While we have already understood from BG Chan that politicians elsewhere in the world are not as well paid because those $1.50 chye tow kueys are not as capable, Teo now enlightens us on how politicians in the rest of the world are not even as transparent as the PAP because only the PAP government adopts a “clean wage” policy.

        In other words, not only are all other governments less competent than the PAP government, they are also less clean and transparent. This sounds like an open invitation to declare war, so Singaporeans must thank God if its ministers are not taken seriously by their international counterparts.
    • LuaCK  •  Singapore, Central Singapore  •  4 months ago
      What future or who's future are we talking about? The Minister's or Foreigners? There's no more future for Singaporeans anyway.

      We have problem finding jobs, all taken by foreigners, even if we are employed, we work in fear, not because we are incapable, but because there's millions of cheaper foreigners waiting out there to snatch up our jobs. Cant blame the employers, they run a business and need to make profit and the Government makes it all possible for them to hire cheaper foreigners in place of locals.

      What have we got to lose anyway? We are not even sure of today or tomorrow, what is there to worry about future?
      • marko 4 months ago
        you got no future lah,,go dunk your head in mudhole...
      • LuaCK 4 months ago
        @Marko
        Unfortunately Marko, you are in no position to determine my future. go screw youself dog.
    • Passion  •  4 months ago
      You said Obama pay less but have more perks. What he will does after the service, no one will ever bother. Give in detail and tell us how the high pay of yours is justifiable. Obama inherited a debt ridden country and handling a huge crisis including the BP oil spill. He personally handled it. What crisis you have handled so far other than the cable car incident with just few people died or injured? He even fixed Osama. Economic crisis, take money from the reserve to give job credit. Population drop, fill up with foreigners. No housing, conjest, build smaller and taller. No transport, run more trains service with cost increase until breakdown. People complain no pay rise, ask to work harder and make sacrifices. Who need talents, Singapore or PAP? What talent does Tin Pei Lin has? Some talented are joining opposition. What about them? Chen has been quoted as an example. If more singaporeans are willing to give oppositions a chance, more talented would join the opposition for lesser pay. What talent does the current ministers have? One who could not even calculate the correct expenditure for YOG. Now taking so long to settle the flood issue blaming it as raining too much now. So much so for talented team. SMRT Chairman and the team selected a person without pinpointing her talent. She exceled in her field but failed the basic service. What Talent does the Chairman has? What was his goal? In yesterteam, all were collegues. Most ambitions were to help the people and the country. So they dared to argue with thier fellow teamates and the leaders for the benefit of the people and the country. Now, it is more like serving only one person as "yes boss". Why was the latest team adviced to engage more to the community or ground level. Talent can be learned, developed or borrowed but passion to provide the best and wanting to be honest should be not built-in but in-built already. Do not waste public money to attract talent into your party. I respect those go to opposition than going to your party because they risk everything wherelse those talent going to your party risk none. How to trust those? None have proven to be talented till today although they are highly paid that has let to public dissatisfication.
      • marko 4 months ago
        yawnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn..look moron..obama adminstration is america's power notling to do with SG issues..
      • Tan 4 months ago
        @Marko, you have a filthy mouth.. go get money from Lee and rinse your mouth! Best of all, remain as a good pet! Stop barking before they send you for jab!
      • Sue Ann 4 months ago
        wow @passion i really enjoyed your post. well said. as what many Singaporeans have purported in this comment forum, most if not all PAP MPs came from the backdoor and are not from private sectors...even if they want to peg salary to top earners in private sectors like CEOs and whatnots, then they should face the same music should they fail to perform and get sacked with immediate effect. Shareholders aka Singaporeans should further decide on their performance bonus..in a way, it feels like PAP is fulfilling the roles of director, actor and producer now. talking about keeping it within the "family"
    • KM  •  4 months ago
      Dear PM,
      My priority is to make sure I have at least 2 meals a day for my family.
      If I don't even have that .. what happens to Singapore does not matter to me..
    • BrainDead  •  4 months ago
      I am inclined to agree with LHL that “if you have the wrong system of pay, you will have the wrong team”. This is precisely what we are having now. We are having an obscene pay system that attracts opportunists in lieu of public spirited and capable people to serve the country.

      Again, I am inclined to agree with him that “paying people correctly is part of the answer”. This is also exactly what the public is requiring of them, that is to do away with the offensive pay scheme that plunges fangs deeply into the public’s blood vessel and which is causing haemorrhages.

      Despite the offensive pay scheme, we are not getting “the best people to form the Cabinet” as claimed. I am unable to align any Cabinet member to being good least to label him or her being best. Just remind me if any brothers can think of anybody befitting this categories. Thus, it is definitely not the “best value for (our) money”.

      Indeed, its not “about finding one or two” Chen Show Mao. But, alas, despite the fat pay checks, I do not even see half a Chen Show Mao within the PAP’s rank. This per se is ground enough to dismiss the fallacy about attracting political talent with high monetary rewards. It seems more like corrupting corruptible characters from the start rather than precluding the such.

      Moreover, as I had stated earlier, most, if there is any, of the current ministers had not even made it in the private sector to justify the benchmark used to reimburse them. Therefore, the continued clinging on to such flawed argument tantamount abusing the trust the public (or at least the trust from the 60% of the populace) had placed on the current ruling party.

      Remember, LKY said you have 5 years to repent and 2016 is not far away.
    • Trust  •  Singapore, Central Singapore  •  4 months ago
      Whatever Tin Pei Ling is being paid... it's WAY too much.
    • Jerry  •  Singapore, Central Singapore  •  4 months ago
      WP Chen is a very good example. Serving the citizen is the priority and notbased on HIGH Salary + HIGH bonus. That is the REAL TALENT person we all want to see !
    • Yeo  •  Singapore, Central Singapore  •  4 months ago
      I remember it was brought up that $300/mth welfare is not enuf for the poor elderly and VB commented "do the elderly expect to eat at the restaurant or coffee shop?". Then why kept whining when you are still able to take home more than a million dollar yearly??!!?? May I ask "does PAP expect to brush their teeth with shark fins, rinse their mouth with bird nest and bathe with Evian water daily????".

      Please be honest with what you have to say. When the salary is extremely good, you blah blah blah that you serve the country due to passion and want to do your part. When the salary is cut, 'the fox's tail appears' and you start talking abt family's std of living, dignity, etc. Lame!

      When commoners' salary is cut, you said "no choice, have to help the economy, country. Citizens have to think far and pls stop complaining." When your pay is cut, you whine and cry the loudest, THREATEN TO QUIT!!! Are you taking Singapore for fun? Where are your true passion, commitment, loyalty and sacrifices?
    • Hansaplast  •  4 months ago
      Oooh!...scary...Can we afford to risk the future of Singapore in your hand? I am sure that many in the opposition parties would like to take your place for a fraction of your salary. I agree that opposition parties may not have the experience to run the government. But then what choice do we have? Turn left can die, turn right also can die, might as well let Ah Low take over your place. And please don't tell me that your pap very capable. Singapore under the hand of pap is falling apart already!
    • Jas  •  Singapore, Central Singapore  •  4 months ago
      Singaporean future? What future do we have? Pls explain, PM Lee.
    • Dio  •  Singapore, Central Singapore  •  4 months ago
      You are spot on your comment Mr Lee ! Yes we have a wrong system of pay and we did attract the wrong people in the Govt !! We have attracted a self serving people who are not there to serve but to serve themselves.Nobody is indispensable Mr Lee not even you !! Do you think that Singapore will go down the drain without you or even your whole familee around?? Singapore don't need a dynasty to rule what we need is people who could think of its citizen interest first and not self interest !!!
    • Shinz  •  Singapore, Central Singapore  •  4 months ago
      The top 1000 earners earned that much amount of money because they are capable in the private sector, in their specialize fields. What makes you think that the Ministers deserve to be in the same category, can you justify? If right from the start, the intention of joining politics is to earn high salary, then i don't see how BEST "they" can be in handling Singapore's future. Produce better results to the Citizens before talking salaries adjustment. If you can make every Singaporean rich enough not to worry about money, I reckon no one will bother how much you and your team will be drawing!
    • O  •  Singapore, Central Singapore  •  4 months ago
      Tin Pei Lin who is a green horn in politics certainly does not command such high pay with her inexperienced portfolio, but just becuase her husband is working as Permanent Secretary in the minister's office?!!!

      Do you all realize in our PAP Government, most of the ministers are related. Example , the retired minister Prof Ho Peng Kee, he is the brother of first lady, Ho Ching. He did not do a fantastic job despite he was the ex MP for Yishun East. Wong Kan Seng is a cousin of PM Lee, and I believe there are many more whom we are not aware. Is this what we call nepotism?!!!!

      18 January 2012 : 11.49 am
    • Loh  •  Singapore, Central Singapore  •  4 months ago
      Who agreed that the government approach has so far work Well? Well.... Not Me!
    • PAP my foot  •  4 months ago
      Lee Hsien Loong said, "Your life is now better than 10 years ago." Is that true to you? His life is definitely 10x times better than you.
    • Beeg Koh Nek  •  Singapore, Central Singapore  •  4 months ago
      Quote, "Lee emphasized that a good pay structure is essential to ensure Singapore’s future". Then in that case stand aside Primitive Apes Party! Let the opposition serve us instead! It's clear cut now that you and your Monkeys In White are only motivated by astronomical salaries! We only want a Gov that care for Sporean, than anything else. My dearest comrades, let his statement today be the sword to axe this Monkey and his fellow Monkeys out in 2016! Let's make Primitive Apes Party a thing in a past!
    • livy  •  4 months ago
      Government is slapping themselves? If necessary pay is necessary to assemble the best thing, why cut 37 Pct in the first place. or is he trying to tell me that going forward, the team he put forward is not the best. I am getting confused and confuser and confuserest.
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      To have the right team, Cut salary by another 20 Pct and just include this law. Any minister, MP or civil servant who is charged is court and found quilty of corruption will be sentence to death and believe this will solve everything. For Talent people who is $$$ faced. they can choose step down in the next election. This will give us a cheaper, better and cleaner government. *Corruption is corruption be it one cent or 1.1 million*

      and by appointing some minister and MP (who did not serve NS) , singapore future is already gone and may i ask the PM, how do you think that the lives of singaporean have improved over the last 5 years. By appointing somebody wife as the head of a governement investment company and loss so much money, i cannot see any light in singapore futrue and CPF (which is the singaporean life)
      .
      All about your mee siam mai hum policy

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